Comments on: Arrested Iranian Baha’is Face Islamic Court

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:49:22 +0000

Pey wrote : Fortunately I don't think that the Bahais would ever regress to such horrible tactics as in the past..

I don’t believe that for one minute either; I am sure that diversity of religions and traditions will persist, and the extent to which a Baha’i inspired state would allow gay marriages and polygamy outside the boundaries of our spiritual commitments and beliefs depends no doubt on the results of consultation in that state at a given time. There is a huge difference between spiritual prescription which we are free to “accept or leave” and state enforced penal offences that can lead to civil sanctions. I continue to believe that those who are offended by women in bikini or in veils, should choose live where they are not common.

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:49:00 +0000

Pey wrote : Fortunately I don't think that the Bahais would ever regress to such horrible tactics as in the past..

By: pey

pey — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:30 +0000

well as long as a Bahai inspired state doesn't have penal codes that would imprison or deny rights to people who don't prescribe to strict Bahai law, then we are ok. But your previous posts don't lead me to believe that- nor what most traditional Bahais believe will be the future Bahai commomwealth. So if you feel insulted by what I fear could be the worse, then so be it.

By: pey

pey — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:00 +0000

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:37:47 +0000

Pey wrote: So there would be Taliban like Bahai states that have strict enforcement of Bahai law as dictated by the UHJ (no recognition of gay families or their ability to adopt)

Pey, I don’t believe there would ever be “Taliban like Baha’i states”, but you are free to imagine such a scenario that is insulting to my fellow Baha’is if you wish. We have enough to worry about for the survival of our planet at this time, and you are already in your own priority with a scenario of gay relations and adoption in some centuries.

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:37:00 +0000

Pey wrote: So there would be Taliban like Bahai states that have strict enforcement of Bahai law as dictated by the UHJ (no recognition of gay families or their ability to adopt)

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:34:39 +0000

Pey wrote : Many of us Bahais feel highly insulted by what you describe. But you have the right to your opinion.

What do which Baha’is feel insulting in what I described ?

By: farhan

farhan — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:34:00 +0000

Pey wrote : Many of us Bahais feel highly insulted by what you describe. But you have the right to your opinion.

What do which Baha’is feel insulting in what I described ?

By: pey

pey — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:22:22 +0000

Sorry maybe I misunderstood you when you said: "Who knows, we might have Taliban states as a choice for those who still prefer them, unless the Baha’i inspired states allow for Taliban principles within them. "
I thought you were saying that there will be a varied forms of Bahai states in the future-some Taliban like and others more liberal. But please Farhan, you can take your self-righteous indignation and keep it to yourself. As a Bahai, I am insulted by the thought of creating a Bahai state where people's freedoms are limited and their only option is to get up and leave. Many of us Bahais feel highly insulted by what you describe. But you have the right to your opinion.