Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible?

bahai swallow.pngThere is an ongoing debate between Baha’i theologians on the definition of infallibility itself. They can’t arrive at an agreement and the arguments have been flying back and forth for some time. One theological school of thought says that it has something to do with the Arabic word maasum.

But for most people infallibility means that one doesn’t make mistakes, everything one says or decides or does is right.

So for the sake of simplicity, lets go with that definition. Here’s the thing that I just can’t wrap my puny mind around: If someone, or some institution, as the case is in the Baha’i Faith is believed to be infallible, then doesn’t that require a prerequisite of omniscience?

Let me explain.

If I were to ask an infallible person (say, the Pope) or an institution (say, the UHJ) what the air-speed velocity of an unladen African swallow is, wouldn’t they have to know the air-speed velocity of an unladen African swallow before being able to give me an infallible answer?

You might argue and say, “Wait a tick! The Pope and the UHJ are only infallible when it comes to subjects relevant to Roman Catholicism or to the Baha’i Faith. They have nothing to say when it comes to ornithology, therefore they have an automatic ‘Get Out of Jail’ card. So there! Ha.”

ok, fine. Technically you’d be right but I was just making an analogy, I would respond. Try and chillax there, Mr. McNitpickyson.

So getting back to the topic, logic dictates that before one can answer a question or take a position on something in an infallible way… one would require knowledge or information. And lots and lots of it. In fact, if you want to be absolutely right always and without limits, then you would require absolute knowledge, without limits. There’s a word for that: omniscience.

omniscient infallible swallow.png

And even if one doesn’t simply know everything, to be able to be infallible, one would still require knowledge to be able to calculate, analyse and so forth correctly to be able to arrive at an infallible conclusion (that is, know not only how to arrive at it but to recognize the answer) .

But wait, you pipe up from the back: “What if Pope didn’t have to be omniscient to answer, what if the Pope could bend the fabric of space and time and simply reconstitute reality so that the air velocity of an unladen African swallow would be whatever he deemed it to be? What then, huh, smartypants?”

There is only one thing I would object to in that case. Namely that the Pope, nor the UHJ nor any mortal person has such power. There aren’t any omnipotent beings running around. Except for God (and some people don’t even believe He exists). And to my knowlege no one else is claiming to be omnipotent.

Back to square one.

This might be a good place to wonder if the the UHJ is indeed omniscient. That would certainly make things simple.

“However, the Universal House of Justice is not omniscient…”
(Universal House of Justice — June 14th, 1996)

Well, there goes that theory.

Now, before proceeding, I want to clarify something else. I am not saying that omniscience and infallibility are one and the same. Not at all. One can know everything and be fallible. That is, one can choose to not exercise one’s omniscience. Like for example, knowing how to juggle and choosing to sit on your hands. The two are clearly separate and distinct from each other. You can have one without the other, but can you have the other without the one first?

Could one be infallible if one is not omniscient? If yes, how would that work?

Here is the UHJ again:

We have found nothing in the writings of Shoghi Effendi which suggests that the House of Justice would on any occasion reach a “wrong decision”.
(Universal House of Justice — June 14th, 1996)

How could anyone or any earthly institution be infallible (in the sense of never making mistakes and always being right) if they do not also possess omniscience?

There is the conundrum for me.

If you have an answer, I’d be delighted to hear it. But please use small words so that my few remaining brain cells can handle the synaptic load.

You might also be interested in Part II – a continuation of this discussion.

Related posts:

  1. Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? (part II)
  2. Two Openings in Universal House of Justice
  3. Meet the New Universal House of Justice
  4. Universal House of Justice: Results of By-Election
  5. Universal House of Justice: Ridvan Message 2008

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Could you provide any more detail? What happened exactly? People just refused to follow along? How big was the group, etc….?

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Could you provide any more detail? What happened exactly? People just refused to follow along? How big was the group, etc….?

  • Simon

    I love the Universal House of Justice.
    :-)

  • Simon

    I love the Universal House of Justice.
    :-)

  • Zac Reed

    well im confused by it all too. but i also believe in the Baha’i Faith. I really don’t know just what to think about it except that this is just proof to me that every religion is corrupt. We can see the visible affects of just the last two centuries or so on the Baha’i Faith, which I believe is pure. Imagine the profound effects on Christianity even before the Council of Nicea. It’s just once that infallible Being (any Prophet, Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Zoroaster, Buddha, any of them) disapear, corruption is evident. Even, it’s sad to say, Abdul Baha was not infallible, but he was very close. That’s what Genesis in the Bible tells me personally.

  • Zac Reed

    well im confused by it all too. but i also believe in the Baha’i Faith. I really don’t know just what to think about it except that this is just proof to me that every religion is corrupt. We can see the visible affects of just the last two centuries or so on the Baha’i Faith, which I believe is pure. Imagine the profound effects on Christianity even before the Council of Nicea. It’s just once that infallible Being (any Prophet, Jesus, Muhammed, Moses, Zoroaster, Buddha, any of them) disapear, corruption is evident. Even, it’s sad to say, Abdul Baha was not infallible, but he was very close. That’s what Genesis in the Bible tells me personally.

  • sanubakka

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  • sanubakka

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    ARE YOU SO BORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach

  • Regrettably Anon

    [quote comment="31229"]William,

    I wonder about the infallibility of God as well (sorry).

    God is both creator and destroyer so His nature has a plus for every minus. That’s infallibility or perfection, near as I can tell. Naturally God is beyond our comprehension in any case. So when we apply His nature to people, even Manifestations, we as human beings run into trouble. How do I know? Look at the history of religion.

    Best Wishes,
    Frank[/quote]
    [quote comment=""][...] Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? part II [...][/quote]

    BINGO!

    No Ego here. Just Logic, drawing from the mind, heart and spirit together.

  • Regrettably Anon

    [quote comment="31229"]William,

    I wonder about the infallibility of God as well (sorry).

    God is both creator and destroyer so His nature has a plus for every minus. That’s infallibility or perfection, near as I can tell. Naturally God is beyond our comprehension in any case. So when we apply His nature to people, even Manifestations, we as human beings run into trouble. How do I know? Look at the history of religion.

    Best Wishes,
    Frank[/quote]
    [quote comment=""][...] Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? part II [...][/quote]

    BINGO!

    No Ego here. Just Logic, drawing from the mind, heart and spirit together.

  • Jonah

    It is called independent investigation of truth. Try it sometime. Hint, it involves actually thinking.

    [quote comment=""]ARE YOU SO BORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach[/quote]

  • Jonah

    It is called independent investigation of truth. Try it sometime. Hint, it involves actually thinking.

    [quote comment=""]ARE YOU SO BORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach[/quote]

  • P

    THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach
    —————
    Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don’t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.

  • P

    THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach
    —————
    Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don’t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.

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  • parvizdeamer

    Or it could just be that they are guided by Baha'u'llah, then that means that the House can just be 9 normal guys, no omniscience needed, that through the guidance Him, don't make mistakes. Or is that too simple a logic?

  • peyamb

    Too simple a logic.

  • parvizdeamer

    Remember that the members of the UHJ are not ,as individuals, infallible. It is only the institution when the members consult with a quarom, that is infallible.

  • Anonymous

    As to the question of infallibility–please read the Tablet of the Dichotomy specifically written to address this conceptual distinction between “conferred infallibility” and “acquired infallibility”. The body-members of the (true) Universal House of Justice is “free from error” in the sense that these collective members will be guided by God Who is omniscient and not by the promptings of self and passion. Note, too, that the serving members as individuals are fallible and equal as fellow believers. I warn all Baha’is and non-Baha’is, however, that only the TRUE Universal House of Justice has this station!

    The guideline as to the development of the true Universal House of Justice from fakes, frauds, and imitations is explicitly revealed in Baha’u'llah’s Kitab-i-Aqdas (see paragraph 32), Abdu’l-Baha’s Last Will and Testament (see pages 13-14), and delineated in Shoghi Effendi’s Four Stage Plan. It is abundantly clear that what is intended to function was BOTH the EXECUTIVE BRANCH and LEGISLATIVE BRANCH! For those who are not aware or who stubbornly cling to the Baha’i World Centre leadership (Haifa UHJ), it was divinely instituted that the Guardianship would continue forever constituting the core distinguishing feature of our divinely appointed and guided Institutions (i.e. Spiritual Assemblies or Houses of Justice).

    Shoghi Effendi in fact self-appointed on January 9, 1951 eight women and men to serve on the first International Baha’i Council (including a woman, Amelia Collins, to serve as vice-president in the “International Executive” capacity) he himself designated the “embryonic Universal House of Justice”, there being eleven members total. Anyone can search Wikipedia for the basic info (though not the whole story) where the current UHJ leadership in the Haifa World Centre properties ADMITS and documents that Shoghi not only created the Council that would serve on the international level in the capacity of the Universal House of Justice of Baha’u'llah before his death, but appointed Charles Mason Remey as president of this body, as well! FACTS! Within Shoghi Effendi’s Four Stage Plan, the presidency/executive branch was to serve as the Guardianship/Davidic Kingship, and these are the facts.

    Now, I will shortly emphasize what is talked about in Tablet of the Dichotomy: The reason there is so much contention concerning the Guardianship is an issue of how we understand His Imminence Shoghi Effendi HIMSELF! If you read the tablet everyone will see that he is the “pure rode of gold” that is distinguished and qualified to lead though he is not directly an Aghsan, but directly an Afnan. Understand that both Baha’u'llah and Abdu’l-Baha instructed that an Aghsan (“Branch” or male-lineal descendant of King David) to be Head (Guardian/President) of the Faith and its Institution/Administration. Being an Afnan, Shoghi Effendi was likened unto a “rod of iron” which characterizes the Prophet Muhammad and His Revelation that was a custodian of the messianic lineage and guardian to their authority, and being a descendant of Baha’u'llah through his grandfather Abdu’l-Baha he is a descendant of King David himself, he was chosen to be a valid Guardian of the Cause of God. Therefore, this is what makes Shoghi Effendi not only the First Guardian of the Cause of God but the first and ONLY infallible Guardian or Head of the Faith!

    In the Master’s Will and Testament He says that if a Guardian of the Cause of God cannot produce a biological heir (i.e. sonship) to succeed as Baha’u'llah’s Successor or if such an heir lacks moral qualification, then he [i.e. the Guardian] MUST CHOOSE another, therefore implying an adoption is possible! The Master also gave authority to Shoghi Effendi and his lineage itself, the Afnan bloodline. However, Shoghi Effendi had no children, and even if he did, they could not serve as the Aghsan/Guardian role. His heir was the “embryonic Universal House of Justice” he established during his lifetime to succeed him as the Baha’i World authority–executive branch and legislative branch together.

    What Ruhiyyih Khanum and the Hands of the Cause of God did after the passing of Shoghi Effendi was wrong and conspiratorial. In fact, it was covenant-breaking! According to the Law of God the Hands cease to have any authority upon the death of the Guardian. No one gave them the right to declare ‘Bida’ (to mean “innovation” or God has changed His will) that abrogates the commandments of Baha’u'llah! They scraped the first IBC, then re-elected another bogus UHJ Headless Monster in 1963 with the consent of the unwitting Baha’i world community after having excommunicated and ostracized those who stood up for the Covenant in 1960–including the president of the first IBC, Charles Mason Remey.

    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:iqckW… (Tablet of the Dichotomy in full)

  • New here

    The  infallibility of the UHJ is conferred and is therefor not the result of the omniscience or knwoledge of its individual members but of the divine inspiration it benefits from when consulting as an administrative body:

  • Baquia

     New Here, thanks for your comment. It sounds like you didn’t read part deux!