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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the question of infallibility--please read the Tablet of the Dichotomy specifically written to address this conceptual distinction between &quot;conferred infallibility&quot; and &quot;acquired infallibility&quot;. The body-members of the (true) Universal House of Justice is &quot;free from error&quot; in the sense that these collective members will be guided by God Who is omniscient and not by the promptings of self and passion. Note, too, that the serving members as individuals are fallible and equal as fellow believers. I warn all Baha&#039;is and non-Baha&#039;is, however, that only the TRUE Universal House of Justice has this station!&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  The guideline as to the development of the true Universal House of Justice from fakes, frauds, and imitations is explicitly revealed in Baha&#039;u&#039;llah&#039;s Kitab-i-Aqdas (see paragraph 32), Abdu&#039;l-Baha&#039;s Last Will and Testament (see pages 13-14), and delineated in Shoghi Effendi&#039;s Four Stage Plan. It is abundantly clear that what is intended to function was BOTH the EXECUTIVE BRANCH and LEGISLATIVE BRANCH! For those who are not aware or who stubbornly cling to the Baha&#039;i World Centre leadership (Haifa UHJ), it was divinely instituted that the Guardianship would continue forever constituting the core distinguishing feature of our divinely appointed and guided Institutions (i.e. Spiritual Assemblies or Houses of Justice).&lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt;  Shoghi Effendi in fact self-appointed on January 9, 1951 eight women and men to serve on the first International Baha&#039;i Council (including a woman, Amelia Collins, to serve as vice-president in the &quot;International Executive&quot; capacity) he himself designated the &quot;embryonic Universal House of Justice&quot;, there being eleven members total. Anyone can search Wikipedia for the basic info (though not the whole story) where the current UHJ leadership in the Haifa World Centre properties ADMITS and documents that Shoghi not only created the Council that would serve on the international level in the capacity of the Universal House of Justice of Baha&#039;u&#039;llah before his death, but appointed Charles Mason Remey as president of this body, as well! FACTS! Within Shoghi Effendi&#039;s Four Stage Plan, the presidency/executive branch was to serve as the Guardianship/Davidic Kingship, and these are the facts.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  Now, I will shortly emphasize what is talked about in Tablet of the Dichotomy: The reason there is so much contention concerning the Guardianship is an issue of how we understand His Imminence Shoghi Effendi HIMSELF! If you read the tablet everyone will see that he is the &quot;pure rode of gold&quot; that is distinguished and qualified to lead though he is not directly an Aghsan, but directly an Afnan. Understand that both Baha&#039;u&#039;llah and Abdu&#039;l-Baha instructed that an Aghsan (&quot;Branch&quot; or male-lineal descendant of King David) to be Head (Guardian/President) of the Faith and its Institution/Administration. Being an Afnan, Shoghi Effendi was likened unto a &quot;rod of iron&quot; which characterizes the Prophet Muhammad and His Revelation that was a custodian of the messianic lineage and guardian to their authority, and being a descendant of Baha&#039;u&#039;llah through his grandfather Abdu&#039;l-Baha he is a descendant of King David himself, he was chosen to be a valid Guardian of the Cause of God. Therefore, this is what makes Shoghi Effendi not only the First Guardian of the Cause of God but the first and ONLY infallible Guardian or Head of the Faith! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  In the Master&#039;s Will and Testament He says that if a Guardian of the Cause of God cannot produce a biological heir (i.e. sonship) to succeed as Baha&#039;u&#039;llah&#039;s Successor or if such an heir lacks moral qualification, then he [i.e. the Guardian] MUST CHOOSE another, therefore implying an adoption is possible! The Master also gave authority to Shoghi Effendi and his lineage itself, the Afnan bloodline. However, Shoghi Effendi had no children, and even if he did, they could not serve as the Aghsan/Guardian role. His heir was the &quot;embryonic Universal House of Justice&quot; he established during his lifetime to succeed him as the Baha&#039;i World authority--executive branch and legislative branch together.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  What Ruhiyyih Khanum and the Hands of the Cause of God did after the passing of Shoghi Effendi was wrong and conspiratorial. In fact, it was covenant-breaking! According to the Law of God the Hands cease to have any authority upon the death of the Guardian. No one gave them the right to declare &#039;Bida&#039; (to mean &quot;innovation&quot; or God has changed His will) that abrogates the commandments of Baha&#039;u&#039;llah! They scraped the first IBC, then re-elected another bogus UHJ Headless Monster in 1963 with the consent of the unwitting Baha&#039;i world community after having excommunicated and ostracized those who stood up for the Covenant in 1960--including the president of the first IBC, Charles Mason Remey.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;q=cache:iqckW_Z62IgJ:www.bupc.org/Tablet-of-the-Dichotomy.pdf+tablet+of+the+dichotomy&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;pid=bl&amp;srcid=ADGEESgslK_3Jh39R7BhWHZAfVUD4QG455Il7MKReZ-0DNjtELvYjMzOr1AaM1Iws6JlOubf_JVwYwpWBFh5BZy3tS6GcTrT-iiVN7O7f3Ict4AqwUydCSkLKOc_1oAPLFVcj1UyPDJW&amp;sig=AHIEtbSOK1xPuN_3Q8nxBtVFyVU_YE9QFw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;q=cache:iqckW...&lt;/a&gt; (Tablet of the Dichotomy in full)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the question of infallibility&#8211;please read the Tablet of the Dichotomy specifically written to address this conceptual distinction between &#8220;conferred infallibility&#8221; and &#8220;acquired infallibility&#8221;. The body-members of the (true) Universal House of Justice is &#8220;free from error&#8221; in the sense that these collective members will be guided by God Who is omniscient and not by the promptings of self and passion. Note, too, that the serving members as individuals are fallible and equal as fellow believers. I warn all Baha&#8217;is and non-Baha&#8217;is, however, that only the TRUE Universal House of Justice has this station!</p>
<p>  The guideline as to the development of the true Universal House of Justice from fakes, frauds, and imitations is explicitly revealed in Baha&#8217;u'llah&#8217;s Kitab-i-Aqdas (see paragraph 32), Abdu&#8217;l-Baha&#8217;s Last Will and Testament (see pages 13-14), and delineated in Shoghi Effendi&#8217;s Four Stage Plan. It is abundantly clear that what is intended to function was BOTH the EXECUTIVE BRANCH and LEGISLATIVE BRANCH! For those who are not aware or who stubbornly cling to the Baha&#8217;i World Centre leadership (Haifa UHJ), it was divinely instituted that the Guardianship would continue forever constituting the core distinguishing feature of our divinely appointed and guided Institutions (i.e. Spiritual Assemblies or Houses of Justice).</p>
<p>  Shoghi Effendi in fact self-appointed on January 9, 1951 eight women and men to serve on the first International Baha&#8217;i Council (including a woman, Amelia Collins, to serve as vice-president in the &#8220;International Executive&#8221; capacity) he himself designated the &#8220;embryonic Universal House of Justice&#8221;, there being eleven members total. Anyone can search Wikipedia for the basic info (though not the whole story) where the current UHJ leadership in the Haifa World Centre properties ADMITS and documents that Shoghi not only created the Council that would serve on the international level in the capacity of the Universal House of Justice of Baha&#8217;u'llah before his death, but appointed Charles Mason Remey as president of this body, as well! FACTS! Within Shoghi Effendi&#8217;s Four Stage Plan, the presidency/executive branch was to serve as the Guardianship/Davidic Kingship, and these are the facts.   </p>
<p>  Now, I will shortly emphasize what is talked about in Tablet of the Dichotomy: The reason there is so much contention concerning the Guardianship is an issue of how we understand His Imminence Shoghi Effendi HIMSELF! If you read the tablet everyone will see that he is the &#8220;pure rode of gold&#8221; that is distinguished and qualified to lead though he is not directly an Aghsan, but directly an Afnan. Understand that both Baha&#8217;u'llah and Abdu&#8217;l-Baha instructed that an Aghsan (&#8220;Branch&#8221; or male-lineal descendant of King David) to be Head (Guardian/President) of the Faith and its Institution/Administration. Being an Afnan, Shoghi Effendi was likened unto a &#8220;rod of iron&#8221; which characterizes the Prophet Muhammad and His Revelation that was a custodian of the messianic lineage and guardian to their authority, and being a descendant of Baha&#8217;u'llah through his grandfather Abdu&#8217;l-Baha he is a descendant of King David himself, he was chosen to be a valid Guardian of the Cause of God. Therefore, this is what makes Shoghi Effendi not only the First Guardian of the Cause of God but the first and ONLY infallible Guardian or Head of the Faith! </p>
<p>  In the Master&#8217;s Will and Testament He says that if a Guardian of the Cause of God cannot produce a biological heir (i.e. sonship) to succeed as Baha&#8217;u'llah&#8217;s Successor or if such an heir lacks moral qualification, then he [i.e. the Guardian] MUST CHOOSE another, therefore implying an adoption is possible! The Master also gave authority to Shoghi Effendi and his lineage itself, the Afnan bloodline. However, Shoghi Effendi had no children, and even if he did, they could not serve as the Aghsan/Guardian role. His heir was the &#8220;embryonic Universal House of Justice&#8221; he established during his lifetime to succeed him as the Baha&#8217;i World authority&#8211;executive branch and legislative branch together.</p>
<p>  What Ruhiyyih Khanum and the Hands of the Cause of God did after the passing of Shoghi Effendi was wrong and conspiratorial. In fact, it was covenant-breaking! According to the Law of God the Hands cease to have any authority upon the death of the Guardian. No one gave them the right to declare &#8216;Bida&#8217; (to mean &#8220;innovation&#8221; or God has changed His will) that abrogates the commandments of Baha&#8217;u'llah! They scraped the first IBC, then re-elected another bogus UHJ Headless Monster in 1963 with the consent of the unwitting Baha&#8217;i world community after having excommunicated and ostracized those who stood up for the Covenant in 1960&#8211;including the president of the first IBC, Charles Mason Remey.</p>
<p>     <a href="http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;q=cache:iqckW_Z62IgJ:www.bupc.org/Tablet-of-the-Dichotomy.pdf+tablet+of+the+dichotomy&#038;hl=en&#038;gl=us&#038;pid=bl&#038;srcid=ADGEESgslK_3Jh39R7BhWHZAfVUD4QG455Il7MKReZ-0DNjtELvYjMzOr1AaM1Iws6JlOubf_JVwYwpWBFh5BZy3tS6GcTrT-iiVN7O7f3Ict4AqwUydCSkLKOc_1oAPLFVcj1UyPDJW&#038;sig=AHIEtbSOK1xPuN_3Q8nxBtVFyVU_YE9QFw" rel="nofollow">http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&#038;q=cache:iqckW&#8230;</a> (Tablet of the Dichotomy in full)</p>
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		<title>By: parvizdeamer</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/is-the-universal-house-of-justice-infallible-196.html/comment-page-2#comment-68738</link>
		<dc:creator>parvizdeamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that the members of the UHJ are not ,as individuals, infallible. It is only the institution when the members consult with a quarom, that is infallible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that the members of the UHJ are not ,as individuals, infallible. It is only the institution when the members consult with a quarom, that is infallible.</p>
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		<title>By: peyamb</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/is-the-universal-house-of-justice-infallible-196.html/comment-page-2#comment-68737</link>
		<dc:creator>peyamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 06:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too simple a logic.</description>
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		<title>By: parvizdeamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>parvizdeamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or it could just be that they are guided by Baha&#039;u&#039;llah, then that means that the House can just be  9 normal guys, no omniscience needed, that through the guidance Him, don&#039;t make mistakes. Or is that too simple a logic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or it could just be that they are guided by Baha&#39;u&#39;llah, then that means that the House can just be  9 normal guys, no omniscience needed, that through the guidance Him, don&#39;t make mistakes. Or is that too simple a logic?</p>
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		<title>By: The Trouble with the World &#124; Baha'i Rants</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/is-the-universal-house-of-justice-infallible-196.html/comment-page-2#comment-67783</link>
		<dc:creator>The Trouble with the World &#124; Baha'i Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This obviously opens up the hornets nest of the infallibility of the Universal House of Justice. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This obviously opens up the hornets nest of the infallibility of the Universal House of Justice. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: If Infallible, Why Do We Need to Elect the UHJ? at Baha&#8217;i Rants</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/is-the-universal-house-of-justice-infallible-196.html/comment-page-2#comment-63187</link>
		<dc:creator>If Infallible, Why Do We Need to Elect the UHJ? at Baha&#8217;i Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Previous Discussions: The Concept of Infallibility in the Baha&#8217;i Faith Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? (Part I) Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? (Part II) Individual Conscience Within the Baha’i [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Previous Discussions: The Concept of Infallibility in the Baha&#8217;i Faith Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? (Part I) Is the Universal House of Justice Infallible? (Part II) Individual Conscience Within the Baha’i [...]</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
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		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach
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Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don&#039;t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don&#8217;t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/is-the-universal-house-of-justice-infallible-196.html/comment-page-2#comment-76573</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach
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Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don&#039;t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Sanubakka and if you are doing all these marvelous things, I sure don&#8217;t see the fruits of your labor. Oh, maybe you are doing it in a WRONG way. And it is this pattern of stupidity that a blog like this is shining the light on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is called independent investigation of truth. Try it sometime. Hint, it involves actually thinking.

[quote comment=&quot;&quot;]ARE YOU SO BORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach[/quote]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called independent investigation of truth. Try it sometime. Hint, it involves actually thinking.</p>
<p>[quote comment=""]ARE YOU SO BORED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO IN YOUR HOUSE,COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. Get your asses up and go and teach[/quote]</p>
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