Comments on: It’s a little known fact. . . [3] http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html A Baha'i blog. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:30:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: snorkle http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-68610 snorkle Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:35:57 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-68610 Yes, the bubble wrap and sugar candy approach to consultation definitely sucks, baquia, and I do agree that many Baha'is try exactly that but it ends in tears, sooner or later. Yes, the bubble wrap and sugar candy approach to consultation definitely sucks, baquia, and I do agree that many Baha'is try exactly that but it ends in tears, sooner or later.

]]> By: snorkle http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-68487 snorkle Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:35:57 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-68487 Yes, the bubble wrap and sugar candy approach to consultation definitely sucks, baquia, and I do agree that many Baha'is try exactly that but it ends in tears, sooner or later. Yes, the bubble wrap and sugar candy approach to consultation definitely sucks, baquia, and I do agree that many Baha'is try exactly that but it ends in tears, sooner or later.

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-68481 Baquia Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:56:38 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-68481 snorkle, totally agree - let's wrap our ideas in bubble wrap and then sugar candy so that they never ever clash, lest they create a spark of truth. snorkle, totally agree – let's wrap our ideas in bubble wrap and then sugar candy so that they never ever clash, lest they create a spark of truth.

]]> By: snorkle http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-68476 snorkle Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:13:41 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-68476 I had never encountered a covenant breaker (or even thought much about them) but finally did and this is what happened: at an Assembly meeting the secretary informed us a Baha'i couple had just moved into our (small) town because the wife had a job. The husband, we were informed, was going to take a year off to "teach the Faith". I thought "Oh, I'll just be inactive for a year". On the way out of the meeting, I mentioned to a couple of the Baha'is, "I'm going to be inactive for a year". They asked why and at that point I realized it was the husband in our new Baha'i couple. Never met the guy. Never would. Simple as that. You will, perhaps, guess the rest. The husband turned out to be an "associate" of covenant breakers. <br><br>This was a profound experience for me. I have never, before or since, felt so certain about anything. I didn't feel fear but nothing on earth could have dragged me to a meeting with this guy. The wife turned out to be fine, several of us knew her with no problems.<br><br>So, while I do know that reading CB material is not forbidden, I don't do it. My choice. <br><br>Personally, I think there is much more going on in life than we give it credit for. Science and reason are great stuff but other things matter as well. It's is not meant to be simple.<br><br>This is my first post on bahairants and I'm looking forward to being here. I am a bit of an outcast in the Canadian Baha'i community because I say what I think and believe. I used to think I was "right" to do so but lurking here has been interesting -- I would not want the Baha'i community to be this contentious so perhaps I will become convinced of the need for the repression of ideas in the Baha'i world. I still won't like it though. I had never encountered a covenant breaker (or even thought much about them) but finally did and this is what happened: at an Assembly meeting the secretary informed us a Baha'i couple had just moved into our (small) town because the wife had a job. The husband, we were informed, was going to take a year off to “teach the Faith”. I thought “Oh, I'll just be inactive for a year”. On the way out of the meeting, I mentioned to a couple of the Baha'is, “I'm going to be inactive for a year”. They asked why and at that point I realized it was the husband in our new Baha'i couple. Never met the guy. Never would. Simple as that. You will, perhaps, guess the rest. The husband turned out to be an “associate” of covenant breakers.

This was a profound experience for me. I have never, before or since, felt so certain about anything. I didn't feel fear but nothing on earth could have dragged me to a meeting with this guy. The wife turned out to be fine, several of us knew her with no problems.

So, while I do know that reading CB material is not forbidden, I don't do it. My choice.

Personally, I think there is much more going on in life than we give it credit for. Science and reason are great stuff but other things matter as well. It's is not meant to be simple.

This is my first post on bahairants and I'm looking forward to being here. I am a bit of an outcast in the Canadian Baha'i community because I say what I think and believe. I used to think I was “right” to do so but lurking here has been interesting — I would not want the Baha'i community to be this contentious so perhaps I will become convinced of the need for the repression of ideas in the Baha'i world. I still won't like it though.

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-55195 Baquia Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:02:49 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-55195 Brent, so you agree with me then, that Baha'is are not forbidden to read anything and everything. As for the analogy of poison: from cyanide to snake-poison, many varieties are used in medicine to cure and heal. Brent, so you agree with me then, that Baha’is are not forbidden to read anything and everything. As for the analogy of poison: from cyanide to snake-poison, many varieties are used in medicine to cure and heal.

]]> By: Boycott of Kalimat http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-32973 Boycott of Kalimat Wed, 30 May 2007 09:00:35 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-32973 [...] Baha’is, we are given permission to read even such vitriolic words. The choice is ours to make! It has not been made unlawful. So how in the world - when a Covenant Breaker book is permissable - then, can an NSA make a [...] [...] Baha’is, we are given permission to read even such vitriolic words. The choice is ours to make! It has not been made unlawful. So how in the world – when a Covenant Breaker book is permissable – then, can an NSA make a [...]

]]> By: Yes Virginia, Gay Baha’is Do Exist http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-32259 Yes Virginia, Gay Baha’is Do Exist Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:24:16 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-32259 [...] along from a distance since I’ve long given up trying to actually get anything past the Taliban-esque moderators on Baha’i Journal. I was intrigued to find, among the Baha’i youth in that discussion [...] [...] along from a distance since I’ve long given up trying to actually get anything past the Taliban-esque moderators on Baha’i Journal. I was intrigued to find, among the Baha’i youth in that discussion [...]

]]> By: The Biggest Mistake Baha'is Make http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-32200 The Biggest Mistake Baha'is Make Sun, 08 Apr 2007 00:54:24 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-32200 This post was inspired by a comment left by “jaap”. S/he said: Dear... This post was inspired by a comment left by “jaap”. S/he said: Dear…

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/its-a-little-known-fact-3-61.html/comment-page-1#comment-31658 Baquia Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:12:22 +0000 http://bahairants.com/?p=61#comment-31658 Jaap, the short answer to your inquiry as to whether one should continue to use independent investigation of truth <em>after</em> having decided on the direction of one's soul... is YES!! For if it were no, then no one would ever have the bounty of discovering the next Manifestation of God! Think of it... hundreds of years later when the next Manifestation of God comes to this world, should Baha'is of that time do as other humans have done in the past? deny, torture, and ultimately kill Her/Him? saying, 'we have set our souls on their journey, we no longer need independent investigation of truth to determine the validity of your claim'? Independant investigation of truth is not a destination, it is a journey with no end... for its ultimate goal is the attainment of God, Truth, the Essence of Reality. How sad, how sad, to be so blinded by prejudice and ignorance while professing to possess true understanding. Jaap,
the short answer to your inquiry as to whether one should continue to use independent investigation of truth after having decided on the direction of one’s soul… is YES!!

For if it were no, then no one would ever have the bounty of discovering the next Manifestation of God! Think of it… hundreds of years later when the next Manifestation of God comes to this world, should Baha’is of that time do as other humans have done in the past? deny, torture, and ultimately kill Her/Him? saying, ‘we have set our souls on their journey, we no longer need independent investigation of truth to determine the validity of your claim’?

Independant investigation of truth is not a destination, it is a journey with no end… for its ultimate goal is the attainment of God, Truth, the Essence of Reality.

How sad, how sad, to be so blinded by prejudice and ignorance while professing to possess true understanding.

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