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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is 809 ... The institution number for North Shore Credit Union is 809. It&#039;s also located on your ...Little Known Facts: The Supreme Institution? &#124; Baha&#039;i RantsIt has been a while since we cracked open a case of Little Known Facts... but don&#039;t worry, this is a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wahid Azal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wahid Azal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent picture of WAHID AZAL:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent picture of WAHID AZAL:<br />
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		<title>By: Wahid Azal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wahid Azal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Francis

The Bahai Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS 

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Re: context on the rant by Terry Culhane in 2002 made into a blog by Badi Vilar Cardenas:
http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm

Re: Badi Villar Cardenas,
http://badivillarcardenas.blogspot.com/

Finally, since an occult war &quot;Andrew Carter&quot; and his/her/its associates wish, an occult war they will get.

W</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Francis</p>
<p>The Bahai Technique &#8211; Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Coerce, Silence, Harass&#8230; etc., etc&#8230;. CAUTION NON-BAHAIS </p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Re: context on the rant by Terry Culhane in 2002 made into a blog by Badi Vilar Cardenas:<br />
<a href="http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm</a></p>
<p>Re: Badi Villar Cardenas,<br />
<a href="http://badivillarcardenas.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://badivillarcardenas.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Finally, since an occult war &#8220;Andrew Carter&#8221; and his/her/its associates wish, an occult war they will get.</p>
<p>W</p>
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		<title>By: maybeIam</title>
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		<dc:creator>maybeIam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;&quot;] maybeIam wrote:

There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.

Francis wrote: &quot;Uh-huh. And here it is&quot;:

http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html [/quote]

Oh, you mean the blog created by this man: 

http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm

&quot;Terry Culhane&#039;s attempt at defense of the tyrannical and oppressive system of interrogation discloses the appalling lack of liberty and freedom of conscience within the baha&#039;i faith and its betrayal of Abdu&#039;l-Baha&#039;s Teachings&quot;

Boy, that sure does make my point seem less valid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment=""] maybeIam wrote:</p>
<p>There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.</p>
<p>Francis wrote: &#8220;Uh-huh. And here it is&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html" rel="nofollow">http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html</a> [/quote]</p>
<p>Oh, you mean the blog created by this man: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/Culhane.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Terry Culhane&#8217;s attempt at defense of the tyrannical and oppressive system of interrogation discloses the appalling lack of liberty and freedom of conscience within the baha&#8217;i faith and its betrayal of Abdu&#8217;l-Baha&#8217;s Teachings&#8221;</p>
<p>Boy, that sure does make my point seem less valid!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Parke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The Philadelphia Eagles are playing very well against the New York Giants. Looks like a possible upset in the making. Does anyone know if any members of the Universal House of Justice/International Teaching Center have ever played on an athletic team of any kind at any level? Sometimes you learn things about how an organization works at the psychological level in human beings by playing on an athletic team. One of these things is knowledge of human limits in strength and endurance. There actually ARE limits believe it or not. Human beings actually have limits. I wonder if any of them know this? The AO never seems to understand the existence of limits or personal boundaries in an organization. It is very strange. Have any of them ever had to run an organization where you had to make a payroll from operations? Or are they all high school teachers? Does anyone know? Wow. The Giants just blew picking up a First Down. Back to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The Philadelphia Eagles are playing very well against the New York Giants. Looks like a possible upset in the making. Does anyone know if any members of the Universal House of Justice/International Teaching Center have ever played on an athletic team of any kind at any level? Sometimes you learn things about how an organization works at the psychological level in human beings by playing on an athletic team. One of these things is knowledge of human limits in strength and endurance. There actually ARE limits believe it or not. Human beings actually have limits. I wonder if any of them know this? The AO never seems to understand the existence of limits or personal boundaries in an organization. It is very strange. Have any of them ever had to run an organization where you had to make a payroll from operations? Or are they all high school teachers? Does anyone know? Wow. The Giants just blew picking up a First Down. Back to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybeIam wrote:

[quote]There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.[/quote]

Uh-huh. And here it is:

http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html

That picture is 6-7 years old.

Since his gender reassignment surgery, this is what he looks like now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3K_MH2p5g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybeIam wrote:</p>
<p>[quote]There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.[/quote]</p>
<p>Uh-huh. And here it is:</p>
<p><a href="http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html" rel="nofollow">http://hazinsad.blogspot.com/2007/12/message-from-old-friend-of-wahid-azal.html</a></p>
<p>That picture is 6-7 years old.</p>
<p>Since his gender reassignment surgery, this is what he looks like now:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3K_MH2p5g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3K_MH2p5g</a></p>
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		<title>By: Farhan YAZDANI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farhan YAZDANI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve wrote:

I’ve heard of Shoghi Effendi as the Sign of God and there are places in the Baha’i writings where the Sign of God is equated with the revelation. But the House as God’s Sign on earth?

Steve I don&#039;t remember having read those exact words &quot;sign of God&quot; but in substance this expression seems valid, as Youness Afroukhteh, Abdu&#039;l-Baha&#039;s secretary records it: 

&quot;Now, regarding the future of the Faith, &#039;Abdu&#039;l-Baha suddenly began to continually emphasize the need for the Universal House of justice and the significance of its establishment. In clearly defined statements,

He made us understand that the friends should not assume that after the setting of the Sun of the Covenant, the Cause of God would fall into the hands of the wicked and the corrupt. He emphasized this point repeatedly; one night He instructed us thus: &quot;Write down My words, and communicate them to all parts of the world. Commit them to memory and mention them to anyone with whom you come into contact, so that no doubt may remain that after Me the Faith will be in the hands of the Universal House of Justice.&quot;

Since He had instructed that we should record His words, that night in the pilgrim house everyone wrote down whatever they could remember of His utterances. My notes are as follows:

The night of Monday, the 16th day of Jamadi&#039;u&#039;llah, A. H. 1319 [31 August 1903] we were in the presence of &#039;Abdu&#039;l-Baha He made certain remarks regarding the Universal House of justice, which in accordance with His instructions are recorded as follows:

He stated: &quot;Nothing causes me more unhappiness than disunity, and this can only be remedied by obedience to the command of the Universal House of justice. Even before the establishment of the House of Justice, the friends must be obedient to the existing Spiritual Assemblies even if they know of a certainty that their judgment is flawed. If this were not complied with, the mighty citadel of the Faith of God would not be safeguarded. All must obey the Universal House of justice. Obedience to it is obedience to the Cause. Opposition to it is opposition to the Blessed Beauty. Denial of it is denial of God, the True One. Renouncing any word of the House of Justice is like unto the renunciation of a word from the Kitab-i-Aqdas. Observe, how important this matter is! The Blessed Beauty has ordained the House of justice as the law-maker. If the votes of the members are not unanimous and there are differences of views, then the vote of the majority is the vote of the Blessed Beauty.&quot;

He then added: &quot;Take this very moment. Should the Universal House of justice be operating, by the one True God, beside Whom there is no God, I would have been the first to obey its decree, even if it should be against me. It is true that that Body does not possess inherent infallibility, but it is under the shadow of the protection and shelter of the Blessed Beauty.Its command is the Blessed Command. Discuss this matter amongst yourselves, so that it may not be forgotten. Speak of it to one another; even, make a written note of it.&quot;

(snip) &#039;Abdu&#039;l-Baha used to talk mostly (in those days) about the importance of the House of justice. One night, when He spoke on this subject again He said, &quot;If the House of justice had been operating in this day and pronounced my death sentence, all would have to obey.&quot;

The late Muhammad Riday-i-Qannad was disturbed at this statement by the Master, and he asked, &quot;Is the House of Justice of God, or is it not?&quot; &quot;Of course it is,&quot; replied the Master. &quot;How then is it possible for that which is of God to condemn He Who is of God?&quot; asked he. &quot;My object&quot;, &#039;Abdu&#039;l-Baha replied, &quot;is that you may know that on that day the House of justice is the true one of God, for the Blessed Beauty has ordained it to be the law-maker.” (Khaterat pp170-172)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve wrote:</p>
<p>I’ve heard of Shoghi Effendi as the Sign of God and there are places in the Baha’i writings where the Sign of God is equated with the revelation. But the House as God’s Sign on earth?</p>
<p>Steve I don&#8217;t remember having read those exact words &#8220;sign of God&#8221; but in substance this expression seems valid, as Youness Afroukhteh, Abdu&#8217;l-Baha&#8217;s secretary records it: </p>
<p>&#8220;Now, regarding the future of the Faith, &#8216;Abdu&#8217;l-Baha suddenly began to continually emphasize the need for the Universal House of justice and the significance of its establishment. In clearly defined statements,</p>
<p>He made us understand that the friends should not assume that after the setting of the Sun of the Covenant, the Cause of God would fall into the hands of the wicked and the corrupt. He emphasized this point repeatedly; one night He instructed us thus: &#8220;Write down My words, and communicate them to all parts of the world. Commit them to memory and mention them to anyone with whom you come into contact, so that no doubt may remain that after Me the Faith will be in the hands of the Universal House of Justice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since He had instructed that we should record His words, that night in the pilgrim house everyone wrote down whatever they could remember of His utterances. My notes are as follows:</p>
<p>The night of Monday, the 16th day of Jamadi&#8217;u'llah, A. H. 1319 [31 August 1903] we were in the presence of &#8216;Abdu&#8217;l-Baha He made certain remarks regarding the Universal House of justice, which in accordance with His instructions are recorded as follows:</p>
<p>He stated: &#8220;Nothing causes me more unhappiness than disunity, and this can only be remedied by obedience to the command of the Universal House of justice. Even before the establishment of the House of Justice, the friends must be obedient to the existing Spiritual Assemblies even if they know of a certainty that their judgment is flawed. If this were not complied with, the mighty citadel of the Faith of God would not be safeguarded. All must obey the Universal House of justice. Obedience to it is obedience to the Cause. Opposition to it is opposition to the Blessed Beauty. Denial of it is denial of God, the True One. Renouncing any word of the House of Justice is like unto the renunciation of a word from the Kitab-i-Aqdas. Observe, how important this matter is! The Blessed Beauty has ordained the House of justice as the law-maker. If the votes of the members are not unanimous and there are differences of views, then the vote of the majority is the vote of the Blessed Beauty.&#8221;</p>
<p>He then added: &#8220;Take this very moment. Should the Universal House of justice be operating, by the one True God, beside Whom there is no God, I would have been the first to obey its decree, even if it should be against me. It is true that that Body does not possess inherent infallibility, but it is under the shadow of the protection and shelter of the Blessed Beauty.Its command is the Blessed Command. Discuss this matter amongst yourselves, so that it may not be forgotten. Speak of it to one another; even, make a written note of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>(snip) &#8216;Abdu&#8217;l-Baha used to talk mostly (in those days) about the importance of the House of justice. One night, when He spoke on this subject again He said, &#8220;If the House of justice had been operating in this day and pronounced my death sentence, all would have to obey.&#8221;</p>
<p>The late Muhammad Riday-i-Qannad was disturbed at this statement by the Master, and he asked, &#8220;Is the House of Justice of God, or is it not?&#8221; &#8220;Of course it is,&#8221; replied the Master. &#8220;How then is it possible for that which is of God to condemn He Who is of God?&#8221; asked he. &#8220;My object&#8221;, &#8216;Abdu&#8217;l-Baha replied, &#8220;is that you may know that on that day the House of justice is the true one of God, for the Blessed Beauty has ordained it to be the law-maker.” (Khaterat pp170-172)</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Parke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maybeIam</title>
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		<dc:creator>maybeIam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following the discussion here, as well as that which has taken place between Wahid and Andrew Carter since the beginning of last year. The tone and content of Andrew&#039;s replies to Wahid are strikingly similar to many others made by various Baha&#039;is/Baha&#039;i AO members directed at discrediting and marginalizing Wahid and his positions. There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following the discussion here, as well as that which has taken place between Wahid and Andrew Carter since the beginning of last year. The tone and content of Andrew&#8217;s replies to Wahid are strikingly similar to many others made by various Baha&#8217;is/Baha&#8217;i AO members directed at discrediting and marginalizing Wahid and his positions. There is a VERY consistent and fishy pattern here.</p>
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