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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
		<link>http://bahairants.com/maxwell-bahai-school-closes-413.html/comment-page-2#comment-83525</link>
		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should not surprise anyone that understands the psychopathy and dysfunction that is prevalent in bahai administration. Even if a mass conversion project somehow gets started in spite of the &quot;false unity&quot;, disillusionment and apathy that is present in most bahai communities, it will be overtaken by the demands not of the human beings and their best interests involved at the local level, but by the demands of the dysfunctional bahai bureaucracy.

What gets promoted by bahai administration is that which is self-serving. Success is falsely appropriated. All blame is placed on the &quot;servants&quot; who are &quot;spiritually&quot; at fault, never on the leadership.

In other words, the haifan bahai system is modeled almost perfectly on am autocratic and dysfunctional persian feudal society.

what as waste.

bahai scripture clearly commands bahai administrators to hold themselves to high standards. instead they are liars and flim-flam artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should not surprise anyone that understands the psychopathy and dysfunction that is prevalent in bahai administration. Even if a mass conversion project somehow gets started in spite of the &#8220;false unity&#8221;, disillusionment and apathy that is present in most bahai communities, it will be overtaken by the demands not of the human beings and their best interests involved at the local level, but by the demands of the dysfunctional bahai bureaucracy.</p>
<p>What gets promoted by bahai administration is that which is self-serving. Success is falsely appropriated. All blame is placed on the &#8220;servants&#8221; who are &#8220;spiritually&#8221; at fault, never on the leadership.</p>
<p>In other words, the haifan bahai system is modeled almost perfectly on am autocratic and dysfunctional persian feudal society.</p>
<p>what as waste.</p>
<p>bahai scripture clearly commands bahai administrators to hold themselves to high standards. instead they are liars and flim-flam artists.</p>
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		<title>By: A corroborator</title>
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		<dc:creator>A corroborator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Robert -
Since there has been no reply about what is happening in Ecuador, maybe I can tell you what I know. This thread is about closing Bahai schools. The school founded by Ralph D&#039;s wife, started I think in their house, has also closed.  There were something like a thousand &quot;paper Assemblies&quot; around Cusco in Peru, and now there is one. There were some 300 &quot;paper Assemblies&quot; in Ecuador, and now there are a dozen. Yes, the Ruhi method is pushed. Social service? No! we must first spread the healing message!
Village to village. There were traveling teachers, then there were year-of-service youth. There is still the Bahai Radio station and their staff.
In every country I am familiar with, there was a big enrollment push, the statistics reflect those &quot;thousands&quot; of people who were listed, and the growth (as SF points out for the Mormons) is largely demographic - Bahai children and the odd spouse.
A corroborator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Robert -<br />
Since there has been no reply about what is happening in Ecuador, maybe I can tell you what I know. This thread is about closing Bahai schools. The school founded by Ralph D&#8217;s wife, started I think in their house, has also closed.  There were something like a thousand &#8220;paper Assemblies&#8221; around Cusco in Peru, and now there is one. There were some 300 &#8220;paper Assemblies&#8221; in Ecuador, and now there are a dozen. Yes, the Ruhi method is pushed. Social service? No! we must first spread the healing message!<br />
Village to village. There were traveling teachers, then there were year-of-service youth. There is still the Bahai Radio station and their staff.<br />
In every country I am familiar with, there was a big enrollment push, the statistics reflect those &#8220;thousands&#8221; of people who were listed, and the growth (as SF points out for the Mormons) is largely demographic &#8211; Bahai children and the odd spouse.<br />
A corroborator.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>need medicine for constipation? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>need medicine for constipation? </p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot;That sort of blocks instructions on which way to paddle.&quot; 

as a completely-ex-bahai, that was hilarious. 

Perhaps a better way to put it would be &quot;up a creek without a paddle&quot;.

The canoe concept doesn&#039;t work when you have covenant fascists sending people up creeks without paddles. :) lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;That sort of blocks instructions on which way to paddle.&#8221; </p>
<p>as a completely-ex-bahai, that was hilarious. </p>
<p>Perhaps a better way to put it would be &#8220;up a creek without a paddle&#8221;.</p>
<p>The canoe concept doesn&#8217;t work when you have covenant fascists sending people up creeks without paddles. <img src='http://bahairants.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more silly stuff. using that &quot;logic&quot; we would still all be sitting caves neanderthal style. or, still conforming to some corrupt mullahs in persia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more silly stuff. using that &#8220;logic&#8221; we would still all be sitting caves neanderthal style. or, still conforming to some corrupt mullahs in persia.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4 years later - time to spill the beans.

M. Scott Peck explained how a &quot;community&quot; can transcend &quot;false unity&quot; and attain &quot;true unity&quot;.

First, be honest about a lack of trust and alienation.

Try to walk in the other person&#039;s shoes.

Give permission for chaos and upset to happen.

Contemplate the emptiness that detachment creates.

Allow a sense of harmony to overcome the hurt that comes from honesty as a higher sense of common, shared purpose replaces conflict.

http://fce-community.org/stages-of-cb/
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http://fce-community.org/the-cb-experience/

CB = Community Building =A group of people, who, despite the 
diversity of their previous history, have been able to accept and 
transcend their differences, thus enabling them to communicate 
effectively and openly and to cooperate in working toward a recognizable
 goal or for the common good of the group

This level of development of the 
group--the state of community--requires authentic opening and connecting
 of the heart. It flows, equally, from an awareness and understanding of
 the self and of relations with others, particularly with the other 
participants in the workshop.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 years later &#8211; time to spill the beans.</p>
<p>M. Scott Peck explained how a &#8220;community&#8221; can transcend &#8220;false unity&#8221; and attain &#8220;true unity&#8221;.</p>
<p>First, be honest about a lack of trust and alienation.</p>
<p>Try to walk in the other person&#8217;s shoes.</p>
<p>Give permission for chaos and upset to happen.</p>
<p>Contemplate the emptiness that detachment creates.</p>
<p>Allow a sense of harmony to overcome the hurt that comes from honesty as a higher sense of common, shared purpose replaces conflict.</p>
<p><a href="http://fce-community.org/stages-of-cb/" rel="nofollow">http://fce-community.org/stages-of-cb/</a><br />
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<a href="http://fce-community.org/the-cb-experience/" rel="nofollow">http://fce-community.org/the-cb-experience/</a></p>
<p>CB = Community Building =A group of people, who, despite the<br />
diversity of their previous history, have been able to accept and<br />
transcend their differences, thus enabling them to communicate<br />
effectively and openly and to cooperate in working toward a recognizable<br />
 goal or for the common good of the group</p>
<p>This level of development of the<br />
group&#8211;the state of community&#8211;requires authentic opening and connecting<br />
 of the heart. It flows, equally, from an awareness and understanding of<br />
 the self and of relations with others, particularly with the other<br />
participants in the workshop.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t seem like it. BG is interested in doing things that actually help humanity. As such, he probably doesn&#039;t pay much attention to religion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t seem like it. BG is interested in doing things that actually help humanity. As such, he probably doesn&#8217;t pay much attention to religion. </p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to evolution, human brain chemistry is wired to seek out the grand scheme in things. so all &quot;religion&quot; is potentially expansive if the culture is in a dynamic and creative mode. However, dysfunctional religion is the opposite, it is small and narrow minded, and makes the people that follow it smaller because they allow themselves to be exploited by leaders that have to sell lies and pretend that dynamism exists when it is actually absent.

When a nonconforming voice emerges to complain about exploitation and lies by corrupt leaders (as supported by a pre-rational collective), it becomes necessary to coerce that voice by use of psychological violence (&quot;bullying&quot;).

You could chose to NOT do the decent thing, and set aside your fundamentalist nonsense, and celebrate the sunshine and truth of this blog. Instead, you have a need to pervert light and make it dark. shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to evolution, human brain chemistry is wired to seek out the grand scheme in things. so all &#8220;religion&#8221; is potentially expansive if the culture is in a dynamic and creative mode. However, dysfunctional religion is the opposite, it is small and narrow minded, and makes the people that follow it smaller because they allow themselves to be exploited by leaders that have to sell lies and pretend that dynamism exists when it is actually absent.</p>
<p>When a nonconforming voice emerges to complain about exploitation and lies by corrupt leaders (as supported by a pre-rational collective), it becomes necessary to coerce that voice by use of psychological violence (&#8220;bullying&#8221;).</p>
<p>You could chose to NOT do the decent thing, and set aside your fundamentalist nonsense, and celebrate the sunshine and truth of this blog. Instead, you have a need to pervert light and make it dark. shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there were plenty of people giving warnings about problems in the culture and the economy for at least 25 years. they were marginalized by the establishment, and bahais paid no attention either. the &quot;calm before the storm&quot; was manufactured, as was the storm (as you state).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were plenty of people giving warnings about problems in the culture and the economy for at least 25 years. they were marginalized by the establishment, and bahais paid no attention either. the &#8220;calm before the storm&#8221; was manufactured, as was the storm (as you state).</p>
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