Obama’s New World Order

  • Bird

    He made his agenda pretty clear and a land slide voteded for him, Bahai’s must be thrilled right now that he is going to make thier job easier because with his budget, there is no end to the marketing on an NWO…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

    Thank you for the blog Baquia, it is always a pleasure to see your point of view.

  • Bird

    He made his agenda pretty clear and a land slide voteded for him, Bahai’s must be thrilled right now that he is going to make thier job easier because with his budget, there is no end to the marketing on an NWO…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

    Thank you for the blog Baquia, it is always a pleasure to see your point of view.

  • farhan

    Baquia,

    The NWO that is being acclaimed world wide, irrespective of political issues, reminds me of a talk by Abdu’l-Baha that I will try to find, where He said that the world would adopt the Baha’i principles but would fail until the power of the Holy Spirit were present in those enterprises.

    Plato, Napoleon, Marx and Hitler, all worked towards a NWO, but lacked the spiritual cement that is needed to hold it together.

  • Farhan YAZDANI

    Baquia,

    The NWO that is being acclaimed world wide, irrespective of political issues, reminds me of a talk by Abdu’l-Baha that I will try to find, where He said that the world would adopt the Baha’i principles but would fail until the power of the Holy Spirit were present in those enterprises.

    Plato, Napoleon, Marx and Hitler, all worked towards a NWO, but lacked the spiritual cement that is needed to hold it together.

  • Bonzo

    Obama obtains his cement from many different quarries.

    “Barack Obama sought out controversial gay bishop Gene Robinson not just once but three times during his campaign to become President of the United States, The Times can reveal.” (Ruth Gledhill)

  • Bonzo

    Obama obtains his cement from many different quarries.

    “Barack Obama sought out controversial gay bishop Gene Robinson not just once but three times during his campaign to become President of the United States, The Times can reveal.” (Ruth Gledhill)

  • farhan

    Bonzo wrote:
    Obama obtains his cement from many different quarries.

    Bonzo, this election was the turning point in a racial disease that has been afflicting humanity; I compared it with what I felt when Armstrong set his foot on the moon. However, we now need something to cement the hearts together, not only assemble bricks with mire and clay. A NWO has to be a living organism, not just a human construction.

  • Farhan YAZDANI

    Bonzo wrote:
    Obama obtains his cement from many different quarries.

    Bonzo, this election was the turning point in a racial disease that has been afflicting humanity; I compared it with what I felt when Armstrong set his foot on the moon. However, we now need something to cement the hearts together, not only assemble bricks with mire and clay. A NWO has to be a living organism, not just a human construction.

  • Andrew

    Well, you’d know! :-)

    Thanks for the treat from the Baha’i Tickle Trunk, Farhan! ROTFLMGO!

  • Andrew

    Well, you’d know! :-)

    Thanks for the treat from the Baha’i Tickle Trunk, Farhan! ROTFLMGO!

  • farhan

    Andrew wrote:
    Thanks for the treat from the Baha’i Tickle Trunk, Farhan! ROTFLMGO!

    You are welcome, Andrew; this is the beauty of pluralism: can’t get bored!

    BTW, Google brought me the translation for ROTFLMGO

  • Farhan Yazdani

    Andrew wrote:
    Thanks for the treat from the Baha’i Tickle Trunk, Farhan! ROTFLMGO!

    You are welcome, Andrew; this is the beauty of pluralism: can’t get bored!

    BTW, Google brought me the translation for ROTFLMGO

  • Craig Parke

    [quote comment="58710"]He made his agenda pretty clear and a land slide voteded for him, Bahai’s must be thrilled right now that he is going to make thier job easier because with his budget, there is no end to the marketing on an NWO…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

    Thank you for the blog Baquia, it is always a pleasure to see your point of view.[/quote]

    Bird,

    You know I love you dearly! But I think you are being way too hard on Barack Obama. If there is an Illuminati running the world, these people are truly dumber than a bag of depleted uranium hammers. Yes, it is true that bankers and social cohorts of investors do often act on closed knowledge since the Rothschilds and Napoleon as everyone knows. But the Interent now changes everything. Knowledge cannot be controlled by ANYONE.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

    If there truly is a monolithic Secret Illuminati that rules the world they are truly a Conspiracy of Dunces if their focus actually IS to make money by manipulating everything. Because the bankers and financial geniuses of the world THEMSELVES are now on the brink of TOTALLY DESTROYING the economic system of the entire world through mind bending incompetence and they THEMSELVES and THEIR own wives and children will go with it FIRST of all! These are not terribly bright people. Read the names that have fallen in the last two months. Two more banks quietly went bankrupt in the U.S. over the weekend. If people are involved in conspiracy they should at least be competent.

    They aren’t.

    We are in very, very big trouble. Everyone. Including them.

    Barack Obama is NOT a plant. And the people that say this in those videos are shameful paranoid idiots who are going to be broke with everyone else in the soup line too UNLESS someone who can actually think and has an actual intellect and political power gets into the crisis very, very soon. This is what this election was all about.

    Contrary to what is currently taught in the Baha’i Faith, if you do NOT have intelligent people at the top you are going to totally fail with absolute mathematical precision. I say trust in God but tie your camel. The Baha’i Faith which I served with everything I had for 32 straight years up until five years ago, no longer ties any camels at all. The result is going to be total catastrophic mind bending failure. The government of my country has not tied camels either for the last eight years. It too has gone to total catastrophic mind bending failure. There must be something in the water supply worldwide in recent years? Clueless people have run everything they have touched completely into the ground. It is time to try something else.

    I used to like Ralph Nader, but if he hadn’t run in 2000 and split the progressive vote there would be 4,300 Americans alive that are now dead. Some died in silence and some died screaming. Their souls must now be accounted for by everyone including Glenford Mitchell. I served in the U.S. military to support the Constitution of the United States not someone’s deranged need for psychotherapy. I served in the the Baha’i Faith to support the Teachings of Baha’u’llah not someone’s deranged need for psychotherapy.The electorate of the United States has spoken. So be it.

    But it is always good to hear from you, dear Bird!

  • Craig Parke

    [quote comment="58710"]He made his agenda pretty clear and a land slide voteded for him, Bahai’s must be thrilled right now that he is going to make thier job easier because with his budget, there is no end to the marketing on an NWO…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

    Thank you for the blog Baquia, it is always a pleasure to see your point of view.[/quote]

    Bird,

    You know I love you dearly! But I think you are being way too hard on Barack Obama. If there is an Illuminati running the world, these people are truly dumber than a bag of depleted uranium hammers. Yes, it is true that bankers and social cohorts of investors do often act on closed knowledge since the Rothschilds and Napoleon as everyone knows. But the Interent now changes everything. Knowledge cannot be controlled by ANYONE.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

    If there truly is a monolithic Secret Illuminati that rules the world they are truly a Conspiracy of Dunces if their focus actually IS to make money by manipulating everything. Because the bankers and financial geniuses of the world THEMSELVES are now on the brink of TOTALLY DESTROYING the economic system of the entire world through mind bending incompetence and they THEMSELVES and THEIR own wives and children will go with it FIRST of all! These are not terribly bright people. Read the names that have fallen in the last two months. Two more banks quietly went bankrupt in the U.S. over the weekend. If people are involved in conspiracy they should at least be competent.

    They aren’t.

    We are in very, very big trouble. Everyone. Including them.

    Barack Obama is NOT a plant. And the people that say this in those videos are shameful paranoid idiots who are going to be broke with everyone else in the soup line too UNLESS someone who can actually think and has an actual intellect and political power gets into the crisis very, very soon. This is what this election was all about.

    Contrary to what is currently taught in the Baha’i Faith, if you do NOT have intelligent people at the top you are going to totally fail with absolute mathematical precision. I say trust in God but tie your camel. The Baha’i Faith which I served with everything I had for 32 straight years up until five years ago, no longer ties any camels at all. The result is going to be total catastrophic mind bending failure. The government of my country has not tied camels either for the last eight years. It too has gone to total catastrophic mind bending failure. There must be something in the water supply worldwide in recent years? Clueless people have run everything they have touched completely into the ground. It is time to try something else.

    I used to like Ralph Nader, but if he hadn’t run in 2000 and split the progressive vote there would be 4,300 Americans alive that are now dead. Some died in silence and some died screaming. Their souls must now be accounted for by everyone including Glenford Mitchell. I served in the U.S. military to support the Constitution of the United States not someone’s deranged need for psychotherapy. I served in the the Baha’i Faith to support the Teachings of Baha’u’llah not someone’s deranged need for psychotherapy.The electorate of the United States has spoken. So be it.

    But it is always good to hear from you, dear Bird!

  • Darz

    [quote comment="58746"]
    I used to like Ralph Nader, but if he hadn’t run in 2000 and split the progressive vote there would be 4,300 Americans alive that are now dead. Some died in silence and some died screaming.
    [/quote]

    If anything it was the failure of the Democrats and the Gore campaign to secure victory in 2000. A testament to their incompetence was also displayed in the 2004 election when they should have had a landslide victory.

    Ralph Nader became the easy scapegoat for the Democrat’s own failures. Please do not blame a man for trying to help change our government and society for the better. He has already done more to help the non-elite of this country than any other politician that is alive today.

    The Democrats have also been accomplices in the war in Iraq. They voted to begin it, and they voted numerous times to fund it. If the Democrats were so eager to get us out of there then why haven’t they done anything to stop it?

    Obama is not the savior that everyone is casting him to be. Sure he was a much better alternative to McCain, but he is more of the same… a corporate controlled politician. Will we see much change from him in the next 4 years? I doubt it. How can we when the Democrats as well as the Republicans care more about corporations and the elite of this country than the middle class and poor? Obama is no different than the rest of his party.

  • Darz

    [quote comment="58746"]
    I used to like Ralph Nader, but if he hadn’t run in 2000 and split the progressive vote there would be 4,300 Americans alive that are now dead. Some died in silence and some died screaming.
    [/quote]

    If anything it was the failure of the Democrats and the Gore campaign to secure victory in 2000. A testament to their incompetence was also displayed in the 2004 election when they should have had a landslide victory.

    Ralph Nader became the easy scapegoat for the Democrat’s own failures. Please do not blame a man for trying to help change our government and society for the better. He has already done more to help the non-elite of this country than any other politician that is alive today.

    The Democrats have also been accomplices in the war in Iraq. They voted to begin it, and they voted numerous times to fund it. If the Democrats were so eager to get us out of there then why haven’t they done anything to stop it?

    Obama is not the savior that everyone is casting him to be. Sure he was a much better alternative to McCain, but he is more of the same… a corporate controlled politician. Will we see much change from him in the next 4 years? I doubt it. How can we when the Democrats as well as the Republicans care more about corporations and the elite of this country than the middle class and poor? Obama is no different than the rest of his party.

  • http://www.sonjavank.blogspot.com sonja

    [quote]Obama is not the savior that everyone is casting him to be. Sure he was a much better alternative to McCain, but he is more of the same… a corporate controlled politician. Will we see much change from him in the next 4 years? I doubt it.[/quote]

    Being a politician must be stuff, but, each time I hear someone complaining about how Obama doesn’t or can’t do this or that, then I encounter yet another thing he is doing that makes me almost wish I was an American in order to have been able to vote for him.

    Check out his “ideas for change in America”
    http://www.change.org/ideas?

    So Darz, and others, how many other presidents have invited input in this way – so openly. Of course, you could say, well he won’t listen or can’t or that this website is fake, etc, but somehow I suspect, he is the real deal. It’s deeds that count, and this is a deed.

  • http://www.sonjavank.blogspot.com sonja

    [quote]Obama is not the savior that everyone is casting him to be. Sure he was a much better alternative to McCain, but he is more of the same… a corporate controlled politician. Will we see much change from him in the next 4 years? I doubt it.[/quote]

    Being a politician must be stuff, but, each time I hear someone complaining about how Obama doesn’t or can’t do this or that, then I encounter yet another thing he is doing that makes me almost wish I was an American in order to have been able to vote for him.

    Check out his “ideas for change in America”
    http://www.change.org/ideas?

    So Darz, and others, how many other presidents have invited input in this way – so openly. Of course, you could say, well he won’t listen or can’t or that this website is fake, etc, but somehow I suspect, he is the real deal. It’s deeds that count, and this is a deed.

  • Bird

    Darz, I must agree with your post about the DNP and how they lost the election in 2000. If we squash the 3rd party we might as well rid ourselves of any free choice as Americans.

    Craig, you know I love you too and I did share I am going to obtain an Obama 08′ shirt, however I do think he is a “plant” as in organic matter, and I do think that he had lots of $$ behind him which comes from making campaign promises. One of the attractive aspects of the Bah?’? faith is the opposition on campaigning, but that is pretty much washed out, the baby and the bath water, when an ITC member becomes a UHJ member, being that the ?short list? comes from the ITC, the grooming class for UHJ. (My personal take on elections within the BF)

    Our world is and always has been full of politics it is a way of life will never change, we adapt & mutate…

    Sonja- your link lost me quickly with the whole # 3 -5 – Rebuild America with Free Choice to Unionize- (That suggestion scared the believing Jeeessssuuuusss out me personally) My brother is in a union getting the same amount he made when he was not in the union but less his 2% for his ?protection? and the prices from his shop are on average 20% more for the consumer than non-union shops. Thier motto, made in America by union workers, earns them that 20% more, or does it? Possible the cost to administer the union requirements?

    If you think food and other goods cost alot now wait until the unions win their war to unionize everything. Obama is a MAJOR union supporter. Our legislators have made many laws to protect the workforce that did not exist at the turn of the century when unions formed for the protection of workers. The unions are working REALLY hard to put every American worker into a union and for each one they obtain they get 2% of the workers paycheck, sounds like a racquet to me to insure a worker is going to get what our government has already given them for FREE.

    Personal health care SHOULD NOT be an employer responsibility but the unions think it should and so do the Democrats. Tax deferred 401K’s and Child Support Collections should not be an employer responsibility but it has become our responsibility. Collective bargaining does not have to occur through the union but that is where and how it has resulted in exchange as the ?rule? instead as a last result of the ?exception?.

    The term union makes me get chicken skin all over my body and not in a good way. More burden for employers make me want to throw up and give up! When people like me are squashed over politics no one wins.

    I have changed and seen another side of the table. All business owners get a ?bad? wrap when things go wrong. Try keeping up with the compliances from OSHA, EEOC, DOT, DHS, ERSA, MSPA, DOL, & the IRS to name a few and try to run a business… oh the joy! Each year federal legislators add hundreds if not thousands from a state level on new laws that place more burdens on employers instead of the tax payer themselves. Only the big phat cats will survive, not the small entrepreneur’s like myself, we’ll give up and be forced to sell and it will all be Taco Bell someday.

  • Bird

    Darz, I must agree with your post about the DNP and how they lost the election in 2000. If we squash the 3rd party we might as well rid ourselves of any free choice as Americans.

    Craig, you know I love you too and I did share I am going to obtain an Obama 08′ shirt, however I do think he is a “plant” as in organic matter, and I do think that he had lots of $$ behind him which comes from making campaign promises. One of the attractive aspects of the Bah?’? faith is the opposition on campaigning, but that is pretty much washed out, the baby and the bath water, when an ITC member becomes a UHJ member, being that the ?short list? comes from the ITC, the grooming class for UHJ. (My personal take on elections within the BF)

    Our world is and always has been full of politics it is a way of life will never change, we adapt & mutate…

    Sonja- your link lost me quickly with the whole # 3 -5 – Rebuild America with Free Choice to Unionize- (That suggestion scared the believing Jeeessssuuuusss out me personally) My brother is in a union getting the same amount he made when he was not in the union but less his 2% for his ?protection? and the prices from his shop are on average 20% more for the consumer than non-union shops. Thier motto, made in America by union workers, earns them that 20% more, or does it? Possible the cost to administer the union requirements?

    If you think food and other goods cost alot now wait until the unions win their war to unionize everything. Obama is a MAJOR union supporter. Our legislators have made many laws to protect the workforce that did not exist at the turn of the century when unions formed for the protection of workers. The unions are working REALLY hard to put every American worker into a union and for each one they obtain they get 2% of the workers paycheck, sounds like a racquet to me to insure a worker is going to get what our government has already given them for FREE.

    Personal health care SHOULD NOT be an employer responsibility but the unions think it should and so do the Democrats. Tax deferred 401K’s and Child Support Collections should not be an employer responsibility but it has become our responsibility. Collective bargaining does not have to occur through the union but that is where and how it has resulted in exchange as the ?rule? instead as a last result of the ?exception?.

    The term union makes me get chicken skin all over my body and not in a good way. More burden for employers make me want to throw up and give up! When people like me are squashed over politics no one wins.

    I have changed and seen another side of the table. All business owners get a ?bad? wrap when things go wrong. Try keeping up with the compliances from OSHA, EEOC, DOT, DHS, ERSA, MSPA, DOL, & the IRS to name a few and try to run a business… oh the joy! Each year federal legislators add hundreds if not thousands from a state level on new laws that place more burdens on employers instead of the tax payer themselves. Only the big phat cats will survive, not the small entrepreneur’s like myself, we’ll give up and be forced to sell and it will all be Taco Bell someday.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Bird, I hope you continue to succeed but if you do sell, Obama’s new tax plan has zero capital gains taxes for businesses (sale nor operation). So you can at least look forward to a tax free capital gain from that transaction.

    Darz, “a corporate controlled politician” really? how so? he refuses to “pall around” with lobbysts unlike Hillary Clinton and McCain. So how is he corporate controlled? he comes from such a different personal background than say Cheney, or Rice who were oil executives and came from corporate backgrounds. Obama’s background is an intellectual and a community organizer. A far cry from “corporate ladder” climbing.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Bird, I hope you continue to succeed but if you do sell, Obama’s new tax plan has zero capital gains taxes for businesses (sale nor operation). So you can at least look forward to a tax free capital gain from that transaction.

    Darz, “a corporate controlled politician” really? how so? he refuses to “pall around” with lobbysts unlike Hillary Clinton and McCain. So how is he corporate controlled? he comes from such a different personal background than say Cheney, or Rice who were oil executives and came from corporate backgrounds. Obama’s background is an intellectual and a community organizer. A far cry from “corporate ladder” climbing.

  • Bird

    Baquia- Thanks for the encouragement! Thank God I have a good sense of humor and you too!

    I certainly took alot away with me being a Bahai for 14 years and alot from AbdulBaha- I will not dwell on unpleasant things… and… I WILL BE A HAPPY AND JOYFUL BEING…

    You’re doing a great job keeping the slight smolder speck of a coal in my heart left lit on the possibilites of the BF.

  • Bird

    Baquia- Thanks for the encouragement! Thank God I have a good sense of humor and you too!

    I certainly took alot away with me being a Bahai for 14 years and alot from AbdulBaha- I will not dwell on unpleasant things… and… I WILL BE A HAPPY AND JOYFUL BEING…

    You’re doing a great job keeping the slight smolder speck of a coal in my heart left lit on the possibilites of the BF.

  • Bird

    Gosh Craig you really bring out the bleeding heart in me. How could I not feel the surmountable pride and triumph for both Barack & Michelle Obama seeing them view the White house today; their future home. What a tremendous accomplishment and what it means to their supporters (landslide America). I may only barely fathom the journey uphill, long, with vicious slander on one end and mega deals flying all over the place on the other… what a ride…and what have they won? The victory of having to sacrifice their whole lives to the scrutiny of the media and those they serve for the rest of their lives. What tremendous courage and by all means have earned their limelight in the history books forever. I will pray for them tonight for their safety and security of their loved ones… and add that I would not mind it if they could find a few extra bucks for their Kenyan brother, now that their ?solid, solid as Barack!? ;)

    I’ve always admired anyone who has the intestinal fortitude to get in the ring, those from the sidelines are merely commentary and will never really know the agony and joy of both victory and defeat and I tell you my brother, as you well know I’m sure, there is no better feeling in life than moment of either winning or loosing something you gave your best to. Rudyard Kipling said it best in ?If?

  • Bird

    Gosh Craig you really bring out the bleeding heart in me. How could I not feel the surmountable pride and triumph for both Barack & Michelle Obama seeing them view the White house today; their future home. What a tremendous accomplishment and what it means to their supporters (landslide America). I may only barely fathom the journey uphill, long, with vicious slander on one end and mega deals flying all over the place on the other… what a ride…and what have they won? The victory of having to sacrifice their whole lives to the scrutiny of the media and those they serve for the rest of their lives. What tremendous courage and by all means have earned their limelight in the history books forever. I will pray for them tonight for their safety and security of their loved ones… and add that I would not mind it if they could find a few extra bucks for their Kenyan brother, now that their ?solid, solid as Barack!? ;)

    I’ve always admired anyone who has the intestinal fortitude to get in the ring, those from the sidelines are merely commentary and will never really know the agony and joy of both victory and defeat and I tell you my brother, as you well know I’m sure, there is no better feeling in life than moment of either winning or loosing something you gave your best to. Rudyard Kipling said it best in ?If?

  • Darz

    [quote comment=""]Darz, “a corporate controlled politician” really? how so? [/quote]

    “Barack Obama often boasts he is “the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,” yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm

    Obama’s voting record is not as liberal as most people think. According to this blog and progressivepunch.org, he better described as a moderate than liberal:

    http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-is-most-liberal-senator-big.html

    Also, Obama:
    -Voted for corporate bailout on Wallstreet. (summed up nicely here: http://bailoutmainstreet.com/)
    -Won’t end the US occupation of Iraq
    -Promotes the expansion of the US military
    -Has repeatedly voted to fund the war in Iraq
    -Supports the continuation of the for-profit healthcare system
    -Supports NAFTA and corporate free trade
    -Voted to re-authorise the Patriot Act in 2005
    -Voted for the 2006 bill to build a 700-mile fence on the US-Mexican border
    -Pro Zionist Israel Policy (also picked chief of staff to be Rahm Emanuel, a “consistent and vocal pro-Israel hardliner, sometimes more so than President Bush.”)

    http://www.socialismtoday.org/117/obama.html
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9939.shtml

  • Darz

    [quote comment=""]Darz, “a corporate controlled politician” really? how so? [/quote]

    “Barack Obama often boasts he is “the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,” yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.”

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm

    Obama’s voting record is not as liberal as most people think. According to this blog and progressivepunch.org, he better described as a moderate than liberal:

    http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-is-most-liberal-senator-big.html

    Also, Obama:
    -Voted for corporate bailout on Wallstreet. (summed up nicely here: http://bailoutmainstreet.com/)
    -Won’t end the US occupation of Iraq
    -Promotes the expansion of the US military
    -Has repeatedly voted to fund the war in Iraq
    -Supports the continuation of the for-profit healthcare system
    -Supports NAFTA and corporate free trade
    -Voted to re-authorise the Patriot Act in 2005
    -Voted for the 2006 bill to build a 700-mile fence on the US-Mexican border
    -Pro Zionist Israel Policy (also picked chief of staff to be Rahm Emanuel, a “consistent and vocal pro-Israel hardliner, sometimes more so than President Bush.”)

    http://www.socialismtoday.org/117/obama.html
    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article9939.shtml

  • http://www.sonjavank.blogspot.com sonja

    [quote comment=""]Sonja- your link lost me quickly with the whole # 3 -5 – Rebuild America with Free Choice to Unionize[/quote]

    Bird, personally I’m not a fan of unions as the way you have described so, my response would be, well, then respond to Obama’s proposal on the website. He is asking for feedback, not just for support for ideas set in stone. If you feel strongly about this and don’t respond it is not his fault if he never heard your arguments.

    As someone who lives in a country (the Netherlands) where health care is the employer’s responsibility – or partly so, a few years ago this was changed to be partially the case – I am thoroughly against this. It should be a state thing independent of employment and not within the control of private insurance companies as is the case here. Likewise with pension rights (as a self-employed you can choose to pay for into this, but for those on a low income as myself, there is no incentive).

    So here, you are self-employed you have to pay for compulsory health insurance yourself. Our family pays for a health care package that costs about 300 euros per month and will only be of use if any single person in our family has costs of more than 1500 euros within a year. So basically this is money down the drain unless one of us has a hospital emergency. I wouldn’t feel so bad about this if the money was going into developing the health care system, but it isn’t, it is going into the health insurance company.

    When one of my sons had meningitis as a baby he was kept in intensive care for 12 days while the hospital staff all agreed that after 4 days (yes, it was a miraculous recovery, long story ommitted :) he was well enough to go home or even into a cheaper room. This was not allowed because the company which owned the machine for the antibiotics to be given once a day for one hour (I make this point because he could have been an outpatient to have received this treatment) wouldn’t allow this to be used on a patient unless they were in intensive care (more expensive room, also requiring other equipment no longer necessary) and since the insurance companies are all privatised here, they didn’t care.

    So if the U.S. is going to go with a health care scheme, i’d argue that they should look at models such as in the U.K. or New Zealand where for all their faults, there is some accountability possible in a system where health organizations get money direct from government. It would also save a lot of paperwork and that money could then be helping more people.

    re: progressive tax. Here in the Netherlands, we pay about 50% in tax + social premies (not the same as health insurance, that is on top of this) and our income is sometimes under and sometimes just over the minimum wage. Why? well, here we pay the lowest rate in terms of tax related to income, but the other tax is a flat rate which if you are self-employed you must pay. Interestingly this is not for pension rights either. Those you only get if you are employed or choose to take that road and pay more.
    However… I prefer this system over the current U.S. one because our kids are able to go any high school based on their ability and likewise to any university, and although 300 euros a month is a lot for health insurance that excludes our dentist and other health costs, at least it doesn’t cripple us.
    And it doesn’t cripple us because is possible to live very efficiently here. We cycle everywhere, our rent is cheap and we get things like book subsidies for the children’s schoolbooks and so on. I realise that someone on a high income might be upset that our kids are able to be in the same high school or that our kids might even be able to excel, but I do think this is a better system than leaving access up to the chances of wealth. After all it is just chance, that my type of work (as an artist) does not bring the same type of income as some other career choice with a similar level of training / ability. But I am not complaining, I have choices in my life and in the end I think providing citizens the possibilities for making choices about how they live is what is important.

  • http://www.sonjavank.blogspot.com sonja

    [quote comment=""]Sonja- your link lost me quickly with the whole # 3 -5 – Rebuild America with Free Choice to Unionize[/quote]

    Bird, personally I’m not a fan of unions as the way you have described so, my response would be, well, then respond to Obama’s proposal on the website. He is asking for feedback, not just for support for ideas set in stone. If you feel strongly about this and don’t respond it is not his fault if he never heard your arguments.

    As someone who lives in a country (the Netherlands) where health care is the employer’s responsibility – or partly so, a few years ago this was changed to be partially the case – I am thoroughly against this. It should be a state thing independent of employment and not within the control of private insurance companies as is the case here. Likewise with pension rights (as a self-employed you can choose to pay for into this, but for those on a low income as myself, there is no incentive).

    So here, you are self-employed you have to pay for compulsory health insurance yourself. Our family pays for a health care package that costs about 300 euros per month and will only be of use if any single person in our family has costs of more than 1500 euros within a year. So basically this is money down the drain unless one of us has a hospital emergency. I wouldn’t feel so bad about this if the money was going into developing the health care system, but it isn’t, it is going into the health insurance company.

    When one of my sons had meningitis as a baby he was kept in intensive care for 12 days while the hospital staff all agreed that after 4 days (yes, it was a miraculous recovery, long story ommitted :) he was well enough to go home or even into a cheaper room. This was not allowed because the company which owned the machine for the antibiotics to be given once a day for one hour (I make this point because he could have been an outpatient to have received this treatment) wouldn’t allow this to be used on a patient unless they were in intensive care (more expensive room, also requiring other equipment no longer necessary) and since the insurance companies are all privatised here, they didn’t care.

    So if the U.S. is going to go with a health care scheme, i’d argue that they should look at models such as in the U.K. or New Zealand where for all their faults, there is some accountability possible in a system where health organizations get money direct from government. It would also save a lot of paperwork and that money could then be helping more people.

    re: progressive tax. Here in the Netherlands, we pay about 50% in tax + social premies (not the same as health insurance, that is on top of this) and our income is sometimes under and sometimes just over the minimum wage. Why? well, here we pay the lowest rate in terms of tax related to income, but the other tax is a flat rate which if you are self-employed you must pay. Interestingly this is not for pension rights either. Those you only get if you are employed or choose to take that road and pay more.
    However… I prefer this system over the current U.S. one because our kids are able to go any high school based on their ability and likewise to any university, and although 300 euros a month is a lot for health insurance that excludes our dentist and other health costs, at least it doesn’t cripple us.
    And it doesn’t cripple us because is possible to live very efficiently here. We cycle everywhere, our rent is cheap and we get things like book subsidies for the children’s schoolbooks and so on. I realise that someone on a high income might be upset that our kids are able to be in the same high school or that our kids might even be able to excel, but I do think this is a better system than leaving access up to the chances of wealth. After all it is just chance, that my type of work (as an artist) does not bring the same type of income as some other career choice with a similar level of training / ability. But I am not complaining, I have choices in my life and in the end I think providing citizens the possibilities for making choices about how they live is what is important.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Darz, so you agree that he isn’t taking money from lobbyists. I’m sure if we play 6 degrees of separation we can connect Obama to Mussolini or you to an oyster farmer in Maine but that’s neither here or there. Although everyone is free to disagree with the assertion that Obama is the most liberal senator, it is important to know where this sort of information originates.

    I also like the outline of his ethics guidelines for his administration and transition team:

    ? Federal lobbyists cannot contribute financially to the transition.
    ? Federal lobbyists are prohibited from any lobbying during their work with the transition.
    ? If someone has lobbied in the last 12 months, they are prohibited from working in the fields of policy on which they lobbied.
    ? If someone becomes a lobbyist after working on the transition, they are prohibited from lobbying the Administration for 12 months on matters on which they worked.
    ? A gift ban that is aggressive in reducing the influence of special interests.

    If you are a US citizen, check out the President-Elect’s new website, and give your suggestions to him.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Darz, so you agree that he isn’t taking money from lobbyists. I’m sure if we play 6 degrees of separation we can connect Obama to Mussolini or you to an oyster farmer in Maine but that’s neither here or there. Although everyone is free to disagree with the assertion that Obama is the most liberal senator, it is important to know where this sort of information originates.

    I also like the outline of his ethics guidelines for his administration and transition team:

    ? Federal lobbyists cannot contribute financially to the transition.
    ? Federal lobbyists are prohibited from any lobbying during their work with the transition.
    ? If someone has lobbied in the last 12 months, they are prohibited from working in the fields of policy on which they lobbied.
    ? If someone becomes a lobbyist after working on the transition, they are prohibited from lobbying the Administration for 12 months on matters on which they worked.
    ? A gift ban that is aggressive in reducing the influence of special interests.

    If you are a US citizen, check out the President-Elect’s new website, and give your suggestions to him.

  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    For Craig Parke:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSj1yNZdY8&feature=related (from the movie ‘Network’)

    Also look at the following article (Obama-nation):
    http://zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19291

    Wahid

  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    For Craig Parke:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSj1yNZdY8&feature=related (from the movie ‘Network’)

    Also look at the following article (Obama-nation):
    http://zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19291

    Wahid

  • Darz

    [quote comment="58824"]
    Also look at the following article (Obama-nation):
    http://zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19291
    [/quote]

    Wahid, I loved the article. Baquia, I encourage you to read it and give your thoughts.

    [quote comment="58815"]Darz, so you agree that he isn’t taking money from lobbyists.
    I also like the outline of his ethics guidelines for his administration and transition team[/quote]

    To respond to the second part: I am very glad to see the creation of the ethics guidelines. At least there is something in print that shows good intentions.

    To respond to the first part: While I can agree that Obama did not take money from registered corporate lobbyists for his presidential campaign, that doesn’t mean that he didn’t take donations from the executives, equity partners, or shareholders that share in the profits generated from lobbying. This sums it up well:

    [quote] This year, Barak Obama has repeated over and over again – I don’t take federal lobbyists’ money. Is that a true statement? Well, let’s take the law firm of Sidley & Austin. Sidley & Austin is a registered federal lobbyist. It cannot by law give money to federal candidates. But the lawyers who control the firm and profit from the firm’s lobbying activities can give to Obama. Some of those individual lawyers are registered lobbyists. Some are not.

    Guess who gives to Obama?

    Right.

    The ones who are not registered lobbyists.

    But they still control and profit from the lobbying activities of the firm. So, technically, Obama is not taking money from federal lobbyists. But only in the narrowest sense. Sidley Austin, Skadden, Arps, Jenner & Block, Kirkland & Ellis, and Wilmerhale are all registered lobbyists. Lawyers at these registered lobbying firms have given Obama’s campaign $813,459 through February 1, 2008. [/quote]

    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2008/Obama-Money-Cartel21feb08.htm

    Even if he didn’t take directly from registered lobbyists, I cannot excuse his agenda. I have no idea how National Journal can claim that Obama was the most liberal Senator. If he’s the most liberal Senator of 2007, (taking into consideration his positions on energy, military, foreign policy, healthcare, among other issues) that just goes to show how one sided our government has become.

  • Darz

    [quote comment="58824"]
    Also look at the following article (Obama-nation):
    http://zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/19291
    [/quote]

    Wahid, I loved the article. Baquia, I encourage you to read it and give your thoughts.

    [quote comment="58815"]Darz, so you agree that he isn’t taking money from lobbyists.
    I also like the outline of his ethics guidelines for his administration and transition team[/quote]

    To respond to the second part: I am very glad to see the creation of the ethics guidelines. At least there is something in print that shows good intentions.

    To respond to the first part: While I can agree that Obama did not take money from registered corporate lobbyists for his presidential campaign, that doesn’t mean that he didn’t take donations from the executives, equity partners, or shareholders that share in the profits generated from lobbying. This sums it up well:

    [quote] This year, Barak Obama has repeated over and over again – I don’t take federal lobbyists’ money. Is that a true statement? Well, let’s take the law firm of Sidley & Austin. Sidley & Austin is a registered federal lobbyist. It cannot by law give money to federal candidates. But the lawyers who control the firm and profit from the firm’s lobbying activities can give to Obama. Some of those individual lawyers are registered lobbyists. Some are not.

    Guess who gives to Obama?

    Right.

    The ones who are not registered lobbyists.

    But they still control and profit from the lobbying activities of the firm. So, technically, Obama is not taking money from federal lobbyists. But only in the narrowest sense. Sidley Austin, Skadden, Arps, Jenner & Block, Kirkland & Ellis, and Wilmerhale are all registered lobbyists. Lawyers at these registered lobbying firms have given Obama’s campaign $813,459 through February 1, 2008. [/quote]

    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2008/Obama-Money-Cartel21feb08.htm

    Even if he didn’t take directly from registered lobbyists, I cannot excuse his agenda. I have no idea how National Journal can claim that Obama was the most liberal Senator. If he’s the most liberal Senator of 2007, (taking into consideration his positions on energy, military, foreign policy, healthcare, among other issues) that just goes to show how one sided our government has become.

  • Bird

    Wahid, I loved the article. Baquia, I encourage you to read it and give your thoughts.

    I second that Darz, very well written article. TG for real independant investgation.

    Wahid, that clip from Network is really a trip, I recently watched it and thought how more ture that is today, – “I am mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” is what prompted that meeting… The whole execution thing at the end being planned to build ratings… I still get that feeling today from the media, as if they are trying to control my thoughts or try to put me in a fear zone.

    BTW- Happy B-Day to Baha’u’llah for those who celebrate it, belated.

    OutoftheCage – Free Flight- Soaring- Bird

  • Bird

    Wahid, I loved the article. Baquia, I encourage you to read it and give your thoughts.

    I second that Darz, very well written article. TG for real independant investgation.

    Wahid, that clip from Network is really a trip, I recently watched it and thought how more ture that is today, – “I am mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” is what prompted that meeting… The whole execution thing at the end being planned to build ratings… I still get that feeling today from the media, as if they are trying to control my thoughts or try to put me in a fear zone.

    BTW- Happy B-Day to Baha’u’llah for those who celebrate it, belated.

    OutoftheCage – Free Flight- Soaring- Bird

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Bird, not much to respond to really. Do you really want to get into a debate about the use of “celebrity” when the Republicans trotted out Caribou Barbie, a category 5 moron, just because she gave the male base a woody? or about superficiality when there are Republicans like this around?

    “There is nothing inherently virtuous or progressive about possessing and corralling brain power.”

    Read that again. No really, go back and read it again. This could only have been written by a moran.

    Darz, you do know the difference between taking money from individuals and taking it from firms, right? and the implied legal differences, right? If so, I’m sure you’ll see the non sequitur there in your argument. The list of donors was interesting. Have you taken a look at the other side? Who was contributing to McCain? Comparing the two may be useful in putting things in context.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    Bird, not much to respond to really. Do you really want to get into a debate about the use of “celebrity” when the Republicans trotted out Caribou Barbie, a category 5 moron, just because she gave the male base a woody? or about superficiality when there are Republicans like this around?

    “There is nothing inherently virtuous or progressive about possessing and corralling brain power.”

    Read that again. No really, go back and read it again. This could only have been written by a moran.

    Darz, you do know the difference between taking money from individuals and taking it from firms, right? and the implied legal differences, right? If so, I’m sure you’ll see the non sequitur there in your argument. The list of donors was interesting. Have you taken a look at the other side? Who was contributing to McCain? Comparing the two may be useful in putting things in context.

  • Darz

    Baquia,

    I despise the Republican party even more than the Democratic party, and I know the Republicans are even worse in regards to corporate favoritism. Believe me, I would have been repulsed if McCain had won the election.

    My belief is that Obama was not the best candidate, is not as progressive as most think him to be, and is not the savior of the USA.

    I understand that when people vote for someone they will most likely defend that person to reinforce their belief that they made a good decision. That’s what I’m doing, and that’s probably what you are doing as well.

    With that, I think I’m done talking about Obama for now. We’ll just have to wait and see how these next four years turn out.

  • Darz

    Baquia,

    I despise the Republican party even more than the Democratic party, and I know the Republicans are even worse in regards to corporate favoritism. Believe me, I would have been repulsed if McCain had won the election.

    My belief is that Obama was not the best candidate, is not as progressive as most think him to be, and is not the savior of the USA.

    I understand that when people vote for someone they will most likely defend that person to reinforce their belief that they made a good decision. That’s what I’m doing, and that’s probably what you are doing as well.

    With that, I think I’m done talking about Obama for now. We’ll just have to wait and see how these next four years turn out.

  • Bird

    No Baquia I would most certainly not want to get you started and I agree with the whole Caribou Barbie was in fact a category 5…

    However:
    ?There is nothing inherently virtuous or progressive about possessing and corralling brain power. High intelligence can be (and often is) marshaled to destructive and regressive causes.?

    That line could have also been written by a genius Baquia. Do you really think it is inherent virtue or progress to possess or corral brain power? And let me ask you this, do you want your brain power corralled or possessed and if so by what and whom? Doesn’t sound inherent, virtuous or progress to me but rather reminds me of The Manhattan Project, a sound group of possessed and corralled brain power.

    But hey I’m swinging back myself to non-politics. Sunsets, sunrises, cloud formations, new horizons, just chillin… I went to COSTCO and loaded up on popcorn and Dr. Peppers. It’s all CNN for me and if it hits my town it’s CNN to you. I’ll leave politics to the politicians, taxes to the bookkeepers and find myself some moments in this life that take my breath away with what liberty I have left after the Bush-Cheney Administration.

    Hoping you’re having a few of those moments yourself ;)

  • Bird

    No Baquia I would most certainly not want to get you started and I agree with the whole Caribou Barbie was in fact a category 5…

    However:
    ?There is nothing inherently virtuous or progressive about possessing and corralling brain power. High intelligence can be (and often is) marshaled to destructive and regressive causes.?

    That line could have also been written by a genius Baquia. Do you really think it is inherent virtue or progress to possess or corral brain power? And let me ask you this, do you want your brain power corralled or possessed and if so by what and whom? Doesn’t sound inherent, virtuous or progress to me but rather reminds me of The Manhattan Project, a sound group of possessed and corralled brain power.

    But hey I’m swinging back myself to non-politics. Sunsets, sunrises, cloud formations, new horizons, just chillin… I went to COSTCO and loaded up on popcorn and Dr. Peppers. It’s all CNN for me and if it hits my town it’s CNN to you. I’ll leave politics to the politicians, taxes to the bookkeepers and find myself some moments in this life that take my breath away with what liberty I have left after the Bush-Cheney Administration.

    Hoping you’re having a few of those moments yourself ;)

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    The US and the world just went through 8 years of a president who:
    *ignored intelligence briefing on terrorism
    *started 2 wars (illegally many say)
    *mismanaged both wars horribly
    *didn’t manage to capture head of Alqaeda or Taliban
    *spied unconstitutionally on his own people
    *gave the ok for torture
    *appointed incompetent cronies to important positions “Heck of a job Brownie”
    *outed a CIA operative and protected those who did
    *ran the US economy into the ground and imperiled the world’s
    *etc.

    so forgive me a little when I react as a criminal like this walks away unscathed and then someone who is a breath of fresh air is questioned even before he takes office!

    re intelligence, we have seen in the past 8 years what its absence can do to a country and a world. What the writer is doing is trying to create a suspicion about intelligence. This is the culture that created Paris Hilton and brought us where we are. One of my friend’s mother had a saying, better to have “a smart enemy than a dumb friend”. A smart enemy will challenge you and make you rise up to be the best you can be to beat them. A dumb “friend” will dumb you down.

  • http://www.bahairants.com Baquia

    The US and the world just went through 8 years of a president who:
    *ignored intelligence briefing on terrorism
    *started 2 wars (illegally many say)
    *mismanaged both wars horribly
    *didn’t manage to capture head of Alqaeda or Taliban
    *spied unconstitutionally on his own people
    *gave the ok for torture
    *appointed incompetent cronies to important positions “Heck of a job Brownie”
    *outed a CIA operative and protected those who did
    *ran the US economy into the ground and imperiled the world’s
    *etc.

    so forgive me a little when I react as a criminal like this walks away unscathed and then someone who is a breath of fresh air is questioned even before he takes office!

    re intelligence, we have seen in the past 8 years what its absence can do to a country and a world. What the writer is doing is trying to create a suspicion about intelligence. This is the culture that created Paris Hilton and brought us where we are. One of my friend’s mother had a saying, better to have “a smart enemy than a dumb friend”. A smart enemy will challenge you and make you rise up to be the best you can be to beat them. A dumb “friend” will dumb you down.

  • Wahid Azal

    [quote comment=""]The US and the world just went through 8 years of a president who:
    *started 2 wars (illegally many say)
    *mismanaged both wars horribly
    *didn’t manage to capture head of Alqaeda or Taliban
    *spied unconstitutionally on his own people
    *gave the ok for torture
    *appointed incompetent cronies to important positions “Heck of a job Brownie”
    *outed a CIA operative and protected those who did
    *ran the US economy into the ground and imperiled the world’s
    *etc.

    so forgive me a little when I react as a criminal like this walks away unscathed and then someone who is a breath of fresh air is questioned even before he takes office!

    [/quote]

    I’ve never quite been able to figure out why well-to-do expat Iranians living in the US for sometime somehow always end up becoming more patriotic than Pat Boone (many of whom usually vote Republican)?! This, after all, to a country who directly contributed in the 20th century to the cultural implosion and destruction of their own motherland via incessant political and economic meddling and imperialist skullduggery of the most malefic, two-faced form – and under six-seven presidents no less.

    I like Barack HUSSEIN Obama very much. I welcomed his election wholeheartedly, and compared to the past couple of eedjits at 1600 he is most definitely a radical, radical improvement. He was also clearly the better option compared to both Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Hollywood-Wall Street – who are the ultimate king-makers in those United States – got it relatively right this time, for once.

    But let’s be real. This was an event of appearances only designed for placating the masses and lulling them back to sleep – masses riled over 8 years with a reality check regarding the true nature of America. In other words it was restoring the ‘opiate’ of hope rather than its actuality. The well executed big money election of Barack Obama does not in any way, shape, manner or form challenge the basis or legitimacy of American Empire and its rules, or the fact that America is fundamentally a classist, racist, corrupt militarist-oligarchic kleptocracy and plutocracy where the semblance of any meaningful democracy is only that – a semblance, nothing more. As such Barack Obama is only a face, a figurehead, and not the sum-total of the real agendas of those who brought him to power who ultimately pull the strings – and, let us not forget, would do a Kennedy (Dallas, November 1963) on him in a heartbeat if he attempted to take an independent line and actually do something meaningful which would challenge their interests. It remains to be seen whether he is Dr. King’s ‘Dream’ come true. But many of the radical leaders – and some not so radical – of the African-American intelligentsia are presently not so goo-goo eyed about Obama at all. This is because no American president, since probably Taft and Wilson (or even before), has really ever held substantive executive power, and every American president since the 1920s has been nothing more than the given face and pawn of the financial elite for that given cycle. Furthermore, Obama is only an African-American leader by default.

    That aside, here is what John Pilger has to say about our Brother Barack:

    http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=492
    http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=489

    As for the list of malfeasances committed by Jr. 666, mutatis mutandis, you could apply similar to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, BushI and Clinton. The only difference between Jr. 666 and the rest of those suits is that Jr. 666 went overboard (or is that ‘waterboard’) to what the others already did similarly. What Nixon did in Cambodia and Laos was as criminally reckless as what Bush did in Iraq.

    The real hero here is Rev. Jeremiah Wright (Allah bless this great man). This is a Brother for the ages, a man of iron-clad integrity (something lacking in real substance up-and-down American politics) and one I would vote for in a real election were he ever on a ballot somewhere.

    Wahid

  • Wahid Azal

    [quote comment=""]The US and the world just went through 8 years of a president who:
    *started 2 wars (illegally many say)
    *mismanaged both wars horribly
    *didn’t manage to capture head of Alqaeda or Taliban
    *spied unconstitutionally on his own people
    *gave the ok for torture
    *appointed incompetent cronies to important positions “Heck of a job Brownie”
    *outed a CIA operative and protected those who did
    *ran the US economy into the ground and imperiled the world’s
    *etc.

    so forgive me a little when I react as a criminal like this walks away unscathed and then someone who is a breath of fresh air is questioned even before he takes office!

    [/quote]

    I’ve never quite been able to figure out why well-to-do expat Iranians living in the US for sometime somehow always end up becoming more patriotic than Pat Boone (many of whom usually vote Republican)?! This, after all, to a country who directly contributed in the 20th century to the cultural implosion and destruction of their own motherland via incessant political and economic meddling and imperialist skullduggery of the most malefic, two-faced form – and under six-seven presidents no less.

    I like Barack HUSSEIN Obama very much. I welcomed his election wholeheartedly, and compared to the past couple of eedjits at 1600 he is most definitely a radical, radical improvement. He was also clearly the better option compared to both Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Hollywood-Wall Street – who are the ultimate king-makers in those United States – got it relatively right this time, for once.

    But let’s be real. This was an event of appearances only designed for placating the masses and lulling them back to sleep – masses riled over 8 years with a reality check regarding the true nature of America. In other words it was restoring the ‘opiate’ of hope rather than its actuality. The well executed big money election of Barack Obama does not in any way, shape, manner or form challenge the basis or legitimacy of American Empire and its rules, or the fact that America is fundamentally a classist, racist, corrupt militarist-oligarchic kleptocracy and plutocracy where the semblance of any meaningful democracy is only that – a semblance, nothing more. As such Barack Obama is only a face, a figurehead, and not the sum-total of the real agendas of those who brought him to power who ultimately pull the strings – and, let us not forget, would do a Kennedy (Dallas, November 1963) on him in a heartbeat if he attempted to take an independent line and actually do something meaningful which would challenge their interests. It remains to be seen whether he is Dr. King’s ‘Dream’ come true. But many of the radical leaders – and some not so radical – of the African-American intelligentsia are presently not so goo-goo eyed about Obama at all. This is because no American president, since probably Taft and Wilson (or even before), has really ever held substantive executive power, and every American president since the 1920s has been nothing more than the given face and pawn of the financial elite for that given cycle. Furthermore, Obama is only an African-American leader by default.

    That aside, here is what John Pilger has to say about our Brother Barack:

    http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=492
    http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=489

    As for the list of malfeasances committed by Jr. 666, mutatis mutandis, you could apply similar to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, BushI and Clinton. The only difference between Jr. 666 and the rest of those suits is that Jr. 666 went overboard (or is that ‘waterboard’) to what the others already did similarly. What Nixon did in Cambodia and Laos was as criminally reckless as what Bush did in Iraq.

    The real hero here is Rev. Jeremiah Wright (Allah bless this great man). This is a Brother for the ages, a man of iron-clad integrity (something lacking in real substance up-and-down American politics) and one I would vote for in a real election were he ever on a ballot somewhere.

    Wahid

  • Bird

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  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    Hey Bacquia,

    On an unrelated note, check this out:
    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=b31ub3SbL5c

    Wahid

  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    Hey Bacquia,

    On an unrelated note, check this out:
    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=b31ub3SbL5c

    Wahid

  • Bird

    Wahid Azal – you have quite the crusade against the Bah?’?’s I can read by your web page this evening. You’re in the right country for free speech, at least where I believe this blog is hosted and or maintained, the good old US of A. But wow, talk about who knew about what the heck a Bayani Gnostic Universalist is till now. I’m telling you religion is getting more like Starbucks every day.

    Just keep adding to the menu and make sure you have plenty of choices to make it taste perfect. Sugar-free, no fat soy, decaffeinated, light on the heat or leaded with whole cream, extra sugar with a double shot steamed hot. Don’t like it hot make it a frappichino. Not into coffee head over to Jamba Juice… Just look at the menu and see what works best for you. Never really made any sense to me why anyone has an interest to control what someone else orders, like playing a coffee cop don’t ja think?

  • Bird

    Wahid Azal – you have quite the crusade against the Bah?’?’s I can read by your web page this evening. You’re in the right country for free speech, at least where I believe this blog is hosted and or maintained, the good old US of A. But wow, talk about who knew about what the heck a Bayani Gnostic Universalist is till now. I’m telling you religion is getting more like Starbucks every day.

    Just keep adding to the menu and make sure you have plenty of choices to make it taste perfect. Sugar-free, no fat soy, decaffeinated, light on the heat or leaded with whole cream, extra sugar with a double shot steamed hot. Don’t like it hot make it a frappichino. Not into coffee head over to Jamba Juice… Just look at the menu and see what works best for you. Never really made any sense to me why anyone has an interest to control what someone else orders, like playing a coffee cop don’t ja think?

  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    I’m actually not in the US of A, but in a place white folk once designated terra nullius (uninhabited) when proceeding to wholesale disenfranchise and ethnically cleanse its actual native inhabitants, i.e. Australia. See,
    http://www.sbs.com.au/firstaustralians/

    As for the Bayani Gnostic Universalism: think of it as the Left-Hand Path meeting Platonic Hermeticism and the *real* Bab (not the sanitized version presented by the Bahais). I am also what you might call a Left-Wing Green Theophanocrat and Radical Traditionalist (with a capital ‘T’) a la Julius Evola but as fused with Franz Fanon. The real Sages have pointed out over and over again that if you want to get ‘There’ you have to swim against all tides, not with it; trump the herd and be the actual shepherd. Social opprobrium is one of the steeds and hallmarks of such a Path, as is a stubborn, uncompromising commitment to the ones Truth.

    But this is not all about nifty pretensions. The Bahai establishment and those who support it have had a free ride for far, far too long. How interesting is the hand of Providence that one of the worst enemies of Haifan Bahaism can emerge from within right it, just like one of the most uncompromising monotheists in history emerged from out of a community of corrupt, uncompromising pagan polytheists. Such manifested antimonies always are designed to reveal the Truth, not in the embodied vehicle, mind you, but in the example pointing to That which is necessarily beyond it.

    I leave you with one of my ‘verses’ in imitation of those of Muhammad in the Qur’an (i.e. al-kafirun), and inspired for much the same identical reasons.

    Sura (chapter) of the Breaking…

    In the Name of the Godhead the Glorified, the Holy!

    1. Kaf Alif Fa’ Ra’ Waw Nun
    2. Say, O breakers of the Godhead’s covenant of primordial and eternal love and desire known as the people of heresy and hypocrisy.
    3. Ye are the companions of hellfire and all of ye are fit for the
    fire of thine ignorance.
    4. Ye are of the dead and all of thee are dirty, beclouded souls of
    tyranny aiding each other.
    5. Thy religion is manifest ignorance and thy knowledge the most great heresy.
    6. Thy path is oblivion and thy way the shaky darkness of perdition.
    7. By the Godhead, to thee be the dark tyranny of thy souls and to Me the Light of the Exposition!

    Wa’Llahu Nawir!

    Wahid

  • http://www.wahidazal.com Wahid Azal

    I’m actually not in the US of A, but in a place white folk once designated terra nullius (uninhabited) when proceeding to wholesale disenfranchise and ethnically cleanse its actual native inhabitants, i.e. Australia. See,
    http://www.sbs.com.au/firstaustralians/

    As for the Bayani Gnostic Universalism: think of it as the Left-Hand Path meeting Platonic Hermeticism and the *real* Bab (not the sanitized version presented by the Bahais). I am also what you might call a Left-Wing Green Theophanocrat and Radical Traditionalist (with a capital ‘T’) a la Julius Evola but as fused with Franz Fanon. The real Sages have pointed out over and over again that if you want to get ‘There’ you have to swim against all tides, not with it; trump the herd and be the actual shepherd. Social opprobrium is one of the steeds and hallmarks of such a Path, as is a stubborn, uncompromising commitment to the ones Truth.

    But this is not all about nifty pretensions. The Bahai establishment and those who support it have had a free ride for far, far too long. How interesting is the hand of Providence that one of the worst enemies of Haifan Bahaism can emerge from within right it, just like one of the most uncompromising monotheists in history emerged from out of a community of corrupt, uncompromising pagan polytheists. Such manifested antimonies always are designed to reveal the Truth, not in the embodied vehicle, mind you, but in the example pointing to That which is necessarily beyond it.

    I leave you with one of my ‘verses’ in imitation of those of Muhammad in the Qur’an (i.e. al-kafirun), and inspired for much the same identical reasons.

    Sura (chapter) of the Breaking…

    In the Name of the Godhead the Glorified, the Holy!

    1. Kaf Alif Fa’ Ra’ Waw Nun
    2. Say, O breakers of the Godhead’s covenant of primordial and eternal love and desire known as the people of heresy and hypocrisy.
    3. Ye are the companions of hellfire and all of ye are fit for the
    fire of thine ignorance.
    4. Ye are of the dead and all of thee are dirty, beclouded souls of
    tyranny aiding each other.
    5. Thy religion is manifest ignorance and thy knowledge the most great heresy.
    6. Thy path is oblivion and thy way the shaky darkness of perdition.
    7. By the Godhead, to thee be the dark tyranny of thy souls and to Me the Light of the Exposition!

    Wa’Llahu Nawir!

    Wahid