• Amado

    Dear Baquia –
    Sorry if my question reveals functional illiteracy, but I can't find anything (for the last month or more) in "The Challenge of Homosexuality, Part Deux". Also, I can't even find the search function anymore! Am I just clicking the wrong URL or something?
    Thanks,
    Amado

  • Amado

    Dear Baquia –
    Sorry if my question reveals functional illiteracy, but I can't find anything (for the last month or more) in "The Challenge of Homosexuality, Part Deux". Also, I can't even find the search function anymore! Am I just clicking the wrong URL or something?
    Thanks,
    Amado

  • Amado

    Dear Baquia –
    Sorry if my question reveals functional illiteracy, but I can't find anything (for the last month or more) in "The Challenge of Homosexuality, Part Deux". Also, I can't even find the search function anymore! Am I just clicking the wrong URL or something?
    Thanks,
    Amado

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Baquia Baquia

    Amado, I've put a link inside your comment to the post you refer to. And regarding the search function, I had it removed but since you asked for it, I will added it back again. In the meantime, you can use google. Type in your word or words and then space and site:bahairants[dot]com

    So for example: “homosexuality part deux” site:bahairants[dot]com

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Baquia Baquia

    Amado, I've put a link inside your comment to the post you refer to. And regarding the search function, I had it removed but since you asked for it, I will added it back again. In the meantime, you can use google. Type in your word or words and then space and site:bahairants.com

    So for example: “homosexuality part deux” site:bahairants.com

  • Craig Parke

    Open source religion

    ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_religion

    There was a time when many people thought of the Baha'i Faith as an open source religion where a person brought their own personal experience in life to their understanding of the Writings. That is now, of course, all completely forbidden in the red terror of the top down thought policed Ruhiized Faith.

    But I believe "open source religion" is a concept right out of the mysticism of the Kitab-I-Iqan and is, in reality, a primary fractal of the powers of the unfolding renewed World Age. I think it may return to the grass roots culture of the Faith in 300-500 years after the current psychological and spiritual damage has long healed.

    The focus of the Baha'i Faith right now is to make converts by frenetically coercing people to sign cards so the lifetime incumbents at the top running everything can go to their graves thinking they have accomplished something. But the focus of "open source religion" is to explore the spiritual reality of existence and let conversion occur as a natural event in and of itself. "Open source religion" is a priesthood of all believers which was one of the major liberating concepts of the early Christian movement. I think it will eventually return to the culture of the Baha'i Faith because it is such a compelling way to live. Imagine a world where you are allowed to actually think about life and your own experience living it and not have to live in fear that someone will report you for thought crimes if you give your opinion on something. "Open source religion" is much more personal than the collective and authoritarian "Year Zero, Inc." Megachurch religions and top down pre-packaged political ideologies that dominated the 20th Century and certainly came to define the Baha'i Faith organization too.

    I honestly think better times are coming. But as a software engineer as my profession, I love open source. It is such a productive concept. Why re-invent the wheel as is always the case in "Year Zero, Inc." thinking? Psychologically marching everyone into the jungle to give them a hoe and a 400 calorie diet to start society all over from "Year Zero" was tried too many times in the 20th Century. It just never worked. It is an odd brain chemistry. There have just been one too many Pol Pot's out there in the world at the top of organizations. I say we try de-centralized spiritual exploration of existence and sharing what we learn directly among ourselves without having to go through a psychological system of "clergy". I honestly once believed that was what Baha'u' llah taught and said was going to be empowered in the unfolding World Age.

    Whoever becomes the Ubuntu Linux of spirituality will have a tremendous effect in the course of world events. I had once hoped it would be the Baha'i Faith. But it is very clear now that is not going to happen. The current top down lifetime incumbent authoritarian leadership of the Baha'i Faith has now taken us completely out of the game. But the free and open grass toots powers of the reborn World Age will indeed progress unhindered. The kernel will go on to other peoples and other spiritual and intellectual communities of higher consciousness.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu

  • Craig Parke

    Open source religion

    ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_religion

    There was a time when many people thought of the Baha'i Faith as an open source religion where a person brought their own personal experience in life to their understanding of the Writings. That is now, of course, all completely forbidden in the red terror of the top down thought policed Ruhiized Faith.

    But I believe "open source religion" is a concept right out of the mysticism of the Kitab-I-Iqan and is, in reality, a primary fractal of the powers of the unfolding renewed World Age. I think it may return to the grass roots culture of the Faith in 300-500 years after the current psychological and spiritual damage has long healed.

    The focus of the Baha'i Faith right now is to make converts by frenetically coercing people to sign cards so the lifetime incumbents at the top running everything can go to their graves thinking they have accomplished something. But the focus of "open source religion" is to explore the spiritual reality of existence and let conversion occur as a natural event in and of itself. "Open source religion" is a priesthood of all believers which was one of the major liberating concepts of the early Christian movement. I think it will eventually return to the culture of the Baha'i Faith because it is such a compelling way to live. Imagine a world where you are allowed to actually think about life and your own experience living it and not have to live in fear that someone will report you for thought crimes if you give your opinion on something. "Open source religion" is much more personal than the collective and authoritarian "Year Zero, Inc." Megachurch religions and top down pre-packaged political ideologies that dominated the 20th Century and certainly came to define the Baha'i Faith organization too.

    I honestly think better times are coming. But as a software engineer as my profession, I love open source. It is such a productive concept. Why re-invent the wheel as is always the case in "Year Zero, Inc." thinking? Psychologically marching everyone into the jungle to give them a hoe and a 400 calorie diet to start society all over from "Year Zero" was tried too many times in the 20th Century. It just never worked. It is an odd brain chemistry. There have just been one too many Pol Pot's out there in the world at the top of organizations. I say we try de-centralized spiritual exploration of existence and sharing what we learn directly among ourselves without having to go through a psychological system of "clergy". I honestly once believed that was what Baha'u' llah taught and said was going to be empowered in the unfolding World Age.

    Whoever becomes the Ubuntu Linux of spirituality will have a tremendous effect in the course of world events. I had once hoped it would be the Baha'i Faith. But it is very clear now that is not going to happen. The current top down lifetime incumbent authoritarian leadership of the Baha'i Faith has now taken us completely out of the game. But the free and open grass toots powers of the reborn World Age will indeed progress unhindered. The kernel will go on to other peoples and other spiritual and intellectual communities of higher consciousness.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu

  • Craig Parke

    Whoops! That link was busted! It should be:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_religion

    Actually, this error is highly symbolic! Baha'u'llah brought the "open source" link for humanity. But the organization that formed broke the link for humanity and took that individual connection for everyone completely away as forbidden. The same old, same old in human history. Now the Baha'is live in a culture of real fear where everyone is afraid to openly speak to each other about anything. It is all now a witch hunt about orthodoxy and conformity of thought and exposing anyone for thought crimes if they don't enthusiastically study Peter Khan's endless personal speeches and orthodox pontifications in a top down Study Circle.

  • Craig Parke

    Whoops! That link was busted! It should be:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_religion

    Actually, this error is highly symbolic! Baha'u'llah brought the "open source" link for humanity. But the organization that formed broke the link for humanity and took that individual connection for everyone completely away as forbidden. The same old, same old in human history. Now the Baha'is live in a culture of real fear where everyone is afraid to openly speak to each other about anything. It is all now a witch hunt about orthodoxy and conformity of thought and exposing anyone for thought crimes if they don't enthusiastically study Peter Khan's endless personal speeches and orthodox pontifications in a top down Study Circle.

  • Craig Parke

    (Part 1)

    On U.S. Memorial Day, in accordance with the Divine Revelation of one AO professional, Glenford Mitchell, please look into the face of each of the fallen and remember that they are all now just a transaction in the Divine marketing of the Baha'i Faith. Every drop of blood spilled out onto the ground, every last breath, every second of searing pain and ebbing life, leads the entire as yet unaware world to taking the Ruhi Full Sequence of Courses, engaging in endless repetitive OCD Core Activities, and everyone will then live happily ever after voting for orchestrated lifetime incumbency from a closed list of pre-selected candidates to rule the entire world forever. Right?

    "You'll recall that the U.S. was 'dragged' into WWII with the attack on Pearl Harbor. Our boys were sleeping off Saturday night while the enemy schemed — but America soon woke up. So when you see the U.S. in Cambodia or in Vietnam — or when you see America's young men in Lebanon, or knocking around in the Balkans — 'please, will you be quiet and let God do His work!'"
    - Glenford Mitchell
    Retired Member of the Universal House of Justice
    Baha'i Faith

    Look at the incredible price of this incredible mentality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/20/soldier

    Meanwhile, this was a news article from 2006 illustrating that there is a lot of "God's work" being done these days on the planet. In fact, it is a growth industry.

    U.S. soldiers' bodies mutilated, booby-trapped

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — The bodies of two U.S. soldiers found in Iraq Monday night were mutilated and booby-trapped, military sources said Tuesday.

    Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker went missing after a Friday attack on a traffic control checkpoint in Yusufiya, 12 miles (20 km) south of Baghdad.

    The sources said the two men had suffered severe trauma.

    The bodies also had been desecrated, and a visual identification was impossible — part of the reason DNA testing was being conducted to verify their identities, the sources said.

    A tip from Iraqi civilians led officials to the bodies, military sources told CNN. The discovery was made about 7:30 p.m. Monday.

    Not only were the bodies booby-trapped, but homemade bombs also lined the road leading to the victims, an apparent effort to complicate recovery efforts and target recovery teams, the sources said.

    It took troops 12 hours to clear the area of roadside bombs. One of the bombs exploded, but there were no injuries.(Watch sad end to desperate search for soldiers — 1:31)

    The bodies were found in the Yusufiya area, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said, adding he believes the soldiers were mortally wounded, then moved.

    It was unclear whether he meant the wounds were suffered in the initial attack on a checkpoint or afterward. "Where we found them was not based on their own movements," he said.

    The soldiers' families have been notified of the developments, he said.

    The bodies were transferred to a coalition base and were to be taken to the United States for DNA testing.

    Caldwell said he had not heard whether a note was placed on the bodies.

    A high-ranking official with the Iraqi defense ministry had earlier offered a conflicting account, telling CNN Tuesday that the soldiers' bodies were found on Saturday in Jurf al-Sakhar town about 80 km (50 miles) south of Baghdad.

    (continued)

  • Craig Parke

    (Part 2)

    Group claims killings

    Meanwhile, a claim posted on a Web site Tuesday said the soldiers were "slaughtered" in accordance with God's will.

    "We announce the good news to our Islamic nation that we executed God's will and slaughtered the two crusader animals we had in captivity," says the claim, reportedly from the Mujahedeen Shura Council, a group linked to al Qaeda. "And God has given our Emir, Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, the good fortune of carrying out the legitimate court's command in person."

    CNN cannot independently verify the claim, but it was posted on a Web site which frequently has carried such messages from insurgent groups.

    Asked whether he gives credibility to a Monday claim by the same group that it had abducted the soldiers, Caldwell responded, "Absolutely not."

    Earlier, military spokesman Maj. William Wilhoite told CNN he did not know whether the bodies showed signs of torture. "I haven't heard anything through our official channels," he said.

    The U.S. military said Spc. David J. Babineau, 25, of Springfield, Massachusetts, was killed in the Friday attack, after which Menchaca and Tucker went missing.

    Asked to provide more information about the attack, Caldwell said the military would provide details — possibly as soon as Tuesday night — after making sure the soldiers' families were fully apprised about the incident. (Watch for the witnesses' description of the suspected abduction — 2:54)

    Menchaca's aunt told CNN the family had been notified of his death.

    Menchaca's uncle, Mario Vasquez, said family members were distraught, and were waiting to receive the body before making any arrangements. Earlier, some family members heard of the possible discovery through the media, before being notified by the military, Vasquez said.

    "I wish they'd punish the people that do these kinds of things right away, instead of taking forever and spending millions of dollars," Vasquez said. "I think, you capture them, make them pay for what they did. Don't think that it's just two more soldiers. Don't negotiate anything. They [the killers] didn't. They didn't negotiate it with my nephew. They didn't negotiate it with Tucker."

    Another of Menchaca's uncles, Ken MacKenzie, lashed out at the government Tuesday on NBC's "Today Show," saying it didn't do enough to bring the men home safe, The Associated Press reported. (Full story)

    A force of more than 8,000 Iraqi and U.S. troops has been searching for the two soldiers. Searchers initially found a body that was thought to be one of the service members', Caldwell said, but turned out not to be.

    Caldwell said troops used unmanned aerial vehicles, helicopters, boats and dive teams in the search. (Watch how search uses land, air, water resources — 2:59)

    One coalition soldier was killed and 8 were wounded during the search operations, he said. Two "anti-Iraqi elements" were killed and another 78 suspected insurgents have been detained, he added.

    The three soldiers involved in Friday's attack were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) out of Fort Campbell, Kentucky, the military said.

    CNN's Barbara Starr, Cal Perry, and Ed Lavandera contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

    My sister flew back from the Middle East in 2006 with several DOD civilian personal directly involved in recovering and identifying the bodies using DNA techniques. The people that worked on this were personally very much shaken. Both soldiers had been skinned alive.

    Yep. Plenty of "God's work" to go around in the Abrahamic Religions these days including the now completely closed loop little Baha'i Faith.

    I absolutely detest this thinking. It is completely insane. The people that think war is "God's work" are now going to be ridiculed all down through the ages forever. Glenford Mitchell and one Abu Hamza al-Muhajer will be two of them. Just pathetic. If you want to understand what happened to us, just look at this mentality.

    Look into the face of every dead soldier on that link this Memorial Day 2009 and weep for the mind bending Godless stupidity of the hapless beings on this planet including the people at the top of the Baha'i Faith.

    Not me any longer. As a anti-war military veteran I will not abide by this utter hack man made ideological "spiritual" baloney. My prayer these days after almost four decades trying to support the Baha'i Faith is "Oh God! Protect me and everyone on Earth from your insane followers!"

  • Craig Parke

    (Part 1)

    On U.S. Memorial Day, in accordance with the Divine Revelation of one AO professional, Glenford Mitchell, please look into the face of each of the fallen and remember that they are all now just a transaction in the Divine marketing of the Baha'i Faith. Every drop of blood spilled out onto the ground, every last breath, every second of searing pain and ebbing life, leads the entire as yet unaware world to taking the Ruhi Full Sequence of Courses, engaging in endless repetitive OCD Core Activities, and everyone will then live happily ever after voting for orchestrated lifetime incumbency from a closed list of pre-selected candidates to rule the entire world forever. Right?

    "You'll recall that the U.S. was 'dragged' into WWII with the attack on Pearl Harbor. Our boys were sleeping off Saturday night while the enemy schemed — but America soon woke up. So when you see the U.S. in Cambodia or in Vietnam — or when you see America's young men in Lebanon, or knocking around in the Balkans — 'please, will you be quiet and let God do His work!'"
    - Glenford Mitchell
    Retired Member of the Universal House of Justice
    Baha'i Faith

    Look at the incredible price of this incredible mentality:

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/20/soldier

    Meanwhile, this was a news article from 2006 illustrating that there is a lot of "God's work" being done these days on the planet. In fact, it is a growth industry.

    U.S. soldiers' bodies mutilated, booby-trapped

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — The bodies of two U.S. soldiers found in Iraq Monday night were mutilated and booby-trapped, military sources said Tuesday.

    Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker went missing after a Friday attack on a traffic control checkpoint in Yusufiya, 12 miles (20 km) south of Baghdad.

    The sources said the two men had suffered severe trauma.

    The bodies also had been desecrated, and a visual identification was impossible — part of the reason DNA testing was being conducted to verify their identities, the sources said.

    A tip from Iraqi civilians led officials to the bodies, military sources told CNN. The discovery was made about 7:30 p.m. Monday.

    Not only were the bodies booby-trapped, but homemade bombs also lined the road leading to the victims, an apparent effort to complicate recovery efforts and target recovery teams, the sources said.

    It took troops 12 hours to clear the area of roadside bombs. One of the bombs exploded, but there were no injuries.(Watch sad end to desperate search for soldiers — 1:31)

    The bodies were found in the Yusufiya area, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said, adding he believes the soldiers were mortally wounded, then moved.

    It was unclear whether he meant the wounds were suffered in the initial attack on a checkpoint or afterward. "Where we found them was not based on their own movements," he said.

    The soldiers' families have been notified of the developments, he said.

    The bodies were transferred to a coalition base and were to be taken to the United States for DNA testing.

    Caldwell said he had not heard whether a note was placed on the bodies.

    A high-ranking official with the Iraqi defense ministry had earlier offered a conflicting account, telling CNN Tuesday that the soldiers' bodies were found on Saturday in Jurf al-Sakhar town about 80 km (50 miles) south of Baghdad.

    (continued)

  • Craig Parke

    (Part 2)

    Group claims killings

    Meanwhile, a claim posted on a Web site Tuesday said the soldiers were "slaughtered" in accordance with God's will.

    "We announce the good news to our Islamic nation that we executed God's will and slaughtered the two crusader animals we had in captivity," says the claim, reportedly from the Mujahedeen Shura Council, a group linked to al Qaeda. "And God has given our Emir, Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, the good fortune of carrying out the legitimate court's command in person."

    CNN cannot independently verify the claim, but it was posted on a Web site which frequently has carried such messages from insurgent groups.

    Asked whether he gives credibility to a Monday claim by the same group that it had abducted the soldiers, Caldwell responded, "Absolutely not."

    Earlier, military spokesman Maj. William Wilhoite told CNN he did not know whether the bodies showed signs of torture. "I haven't heard anything through our official channels," he said.

    The U.S. military said Spc. David J. Babineau, 25, of Springfield, Massachusetts, was killed in the Friday attack, after which Menchaca and Tucker went missing.

    Asked to provide more information about the attack, Caldwell said the military would provide details — possibly as soon as Tuesday night — after making sure the soldiers' families were fully apprised about the incident. (Watch for the witnesses' description of the suspected abduction — 2:54)

    Menchaca's aunt told CNN the family had been notified of his death.

    Menchaca's uncle, Mario Vasquez, said family members were distraught, and were waiting to receive the body before making any arrangements. Earlier, some family members heard of the possible discovery through the media, before being notified by the military, Vasquez said.

    "I wish they'd punish the people that do these kinds of things right away, instead of taking forever and spending millions of dollars," Vasquez said. "I think, you capture them, make them pay for what they did. Don't think that it's just two more soldiers. Don't negotiate anything. They [the killers] didn't. They didn't negotiate it with my nephew. They didn't negotiate it with Tucker."

    Another of Menchaca's uncles, Ken MacKenzie, lashed out at the government Tuesday on NBC's "Today Show," saying it didn't do enough to bring the men home safe, The Associated Press reported. (Full story)

    A force of more than 8,000 Iraqi and U.S. troops has been searching for the two soldiers. Searchers initially found a body that was thought to be one of the service members', Caldwell said, but turned out not to be.

    Caldwell said troops used unmanned aerial vehicles, helicopters, boats and dive teams in the search. (Watch how search uses land, air, water resources — 2:59)

    One coalition soldier was killed and 8 were wounded during the search operations, he said. Two "anti-Iraqi elements" were killed and another 78 suspected insurgents have been detained, he added.

    The three soldiers involved in Friday's attack were assigned to the 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) out of Fort Campbell, Kentucky, the military said.

    CNN's Barbara Starr, Cal Perry, and Ed Lavandera contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

    My sister flew back from the Middle East in 2006 with several DOD civilian personal directly involved in recovering and identifying the bodies using DNA techniques. The people that worked on this were personally very much shaken. Both soldiers had been skinned alive.

    Yep. Plenty of "God's work" to go around in the Abrahamic Religions these days including the now completely closed loop little Baha'i Faith.

    I absolutely detest this thinking. It is completely insane. The people that think war is "God's work" are now going to be ridiculed all down through the ages forever. Glenford Mitchell and one Abu Hamza al-Muhajer will be two of them. Just pathetic. If you want to understand what happened to us, just look at this mentality.

    Look into the face of every dead soldier on that link this Memorial Day 2009 and weep for the mind bending Godless stupidity of the hapless beings on this planet including the people at the top of the Baha'i Faith.

    Not me any longer. As a anti-war military veteran I will not abide by this utter hack man made ideological "spiritual" baloney. My prayer these days after almost four decades trying to support the Baha'i Faith is "Oh God! Protect me and everyone on Earth from your insane followers!"

  • Craig Parke

    This is the correct link to look into each face on U.S. Memorial Day 2009:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/?hpid=t

  • Craig Parke

    This is the correct link to look into each face on U.S. Memorial Day 2009:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/?hpid=t

  • Craig Parke

    This is the correct link to look into each face on U.S. Memorial Day 2009:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/?hpid=t

  • shame

    Is Allahu-abha like italian ciao -both hello and good bye??

    pure muhammadan hodood va ahkam
    this is islam

  • shame

    pure muhammadan hodood va ahkam
    this is islam

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