Comments on: Rick Steves: A Perspective on Iran http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html A Baha'i blog. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Wahid Azal http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-61989 Wahid Azal Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:49:13 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-61989 Michael Fischer details the rise and fall of the Hojjatiya in his book DEBATING MUSLIMS: Cultural Dialogues in Postmodernity and Tradition (1980), which highlights Bahaism in quite extensive of detail. You might wish look at it, <a href="http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Debating+Muslims+%2B+Michael+Fischer&ei=M4SaScuNHo3gkwSw0bjmCQ#PPA48,M1" target="_blank">http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&...</a> Given this, the claim by the Baha'i propaganda and its North American media friends about Ahmadinejad's hojjati association is as ridiculous as in the hypothetical scenario of a Remeyite being appointed to the ITC by the UHJ. It just doesn't happen. Wahid Michael Fischer details the rise and fall of the Hojjatiya in his book DEBATING MUSLIMS: Cultural Dialogues in Postmodernity and Tradition (1980), which highlights Bahaism in quite extensive of detail. You might wish look at it,
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&…

Given this, the claim by the Baha'i propaganda and its North American media friends about Ahmadinejad's hojjati association is as ridiculous as in the hypothetical scenario of a Remeyite being appointed to the ITC by the UHJ. It just doesn't happen.

Wahid

]]> By: Wahid Azal http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-81125 Wahid Azal Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:49:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-81125 Michael Fischer details the rise and fall of the Hojjatiya in his book DEBATING MUSLIMS: Cultural Dialogues in Postmodernity and Tradition (1980), which highlights Bahaism in quite extensive of detail. You might wish look at it, <a href="http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Debating+Muslims+%2B+Michael+Fischer&ei=M4SaScuNHo3gkwSw0bjmCQ#PPA48,M1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&...</a> Given this, the claim by the Baha'i propaganda and its North American media friends about Ahmadinejad's hojjati association is as ridiculous as in the hypothetical scenario of a Remeyite being appointed to the ITC by the UHJ. It just doesn't happen. Wahid Michael Fischer details the rise and fall of the Hojjatiya in his book DEBATING MUSLIMS: Cultural Dialogues in Postmodernity and Tradition (1980), which highlights Bahaism in quite extensive of detail. You might wish look at it,
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=J5RGlpx0j8sC&…

Given this, the claim by the Baha'i propaganda and its North American media friends about Ahmadinejad's hojjati association is as ridiculous as in the hypothetical scenario of a Remeyite being appointed to the ITC by the UHJ. It just doesn't happen.

Wahid

]]> By: Wahid Azal http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-61988 Wahid Azal Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:48:42 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-61988 A point of correction to your piece. The Baha'i propaganda in the West together with interests within the media conglomerate in North American have continually associated Ahmadinejad with the Hojjatiyya Society. You might wish to note that the Hojjatiya society was officially disbanded by Khomeini in the early 1980s and its leader Shaykh Halabi came out against Khomeini and was briefly even imprisoned. Association with the founders and platform of the Hojjatiya automatically would exclude someone from the elite of the regime, let alone election to the presidency, since the early post-revolutionary platform of this organization was that Khomeini's guardianship of the jurisprudent (vilayat-i-faqih) and his appelation as Imam is tout court heresy. As such Ahmadinejad's association with this group and the claim that they brought him to power is completely fictitious and has no substance in reality - yet it is being endlessly propagated. A point of correction to your piece. The Baha'i propaganda in the West together with interests within the media conglomerate in North American have continually associated Ahmadinejad with the Hojjatiyya Society. You might wish to note that the Hojjatiya society was officially disbanded by Khomeini in the early 1980s and its leader Shaykh Halabi came out against Khomeini and was briefly even imprisoned. Association with the founders and platform of the Hojjatiya automatically would exclude someone from the elite of the regime, let alone election to the presidency, since the early post-revolutionary platform of this organization was that Khomeini's guardianship of the jurisprudent (vilayat-i-faqih) and his appelation as Imam is tout court heresy. As such Ahmadinejad's association with this group and the claim that they brought him to power is completely fictitious and has no substance in reality – yet it is being endlessly propagated.

]]> By: Wahid Azal http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-81124 Wahid Azal Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:48:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-81124 A point of correction to your piece. The Baha'i propaganda in the West together with interests within the media conglomerate in North American have continually associated Ahmadinejad with the Hojjatiyya Society. You might wish to note that the Hojjatiya society was officially disbanded by Khomeini in the early 1980s and its leader Shaykh Halabi came out against Khomeini and was briefly even imprisoned. Association with the founders and platform of the Hojjatiya automatically would exclude someone from the elite of the regime, let alone election to the presidency, since the early post-revolutionary platform of this organization was that Khomeini's guardianship of the jurisprudent (vilayat-i-faqih) and his appelation as Imam is tout court heresy. As such Ahmadinejad's association with this group and the claim that they brought him to power is completely fictitious and has no substance in reality - yet it is being endlessly propagated. A point of correction to your piece. The Baha'i propaganda in the West together with interests within the media conglomerate in North American have continually associated Ahmadinejad with the Hojjatiyya Society. You might wish to note that the Hojjatiya society was officially disbanded by Khomeini in the early 1980s and its leader Shaykh Halabi came out against Khomeini and was briefly even imprisoned. Association with the founders and platform of the Hojjatiya automatically would exclude someone from the elite of the regime, let alone election to the presidency, since the early post-revolutionary platform of this organization was that Khomeini's guardianship of the jurisprudent (vilayat-i-faqih) and his appelation as Imam is tout court heresy. As such Ahmadinejad's association with this group and the claim that they brought him to power is completely fictitious and has no substance in reality – yet it is being endlessly propagated.

]]> By: Randy Burns http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-61959 Randy Burns Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:31:33 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-61959 Rick Steves is a travelogue guy. He makes tapes to instruct people how to travel and enjoy themselves all over Europe and has recently begun to branch out to other countries. He is not a political expert, his job is to give people the information they might need to stay out of trouble and to enjoy their visit. Cheers, Randy Rick Steves is a travelogue guy. He makes tapes to instruct people how to travel and enjoy themselves all over Europe and has recently begun to branch out to other countries. He is not a political expert, his job is to give people the information they might need to stay out of trouble and to enjoy their visit.

Cheers, Randy

]]> By: Randy Burns http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-81123 Randy Burns Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:31:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-81123 Rick Steves is a travelogue guy. He makes tapes to instruct people how to travel and enjoy themselves all over Europe and has recently begun to branch out to other countries. He is not a political expert, his job is to give people the information they might need to stay out of trouble and to enjoy their visit. Cheers, Randy Rick Steves is a travelogue guy. He makes tapes to instruct people how to travel and enjoy themselves all over Europe and has recently begun to branch out to other countries. He is not a political expert, his job is to give people the information they might need to stay out of trouble and to enjoy their visit.

Cheers, Randy

]]> By: Matt http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-61932 Matt Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:52:03 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-61932 I agree with Pey. You do have to call people out on injustices, and you can't be selective about it. The problem is that the majority of media outlets (and governments) in the U.S., and some in the UK are very selective. Political interests are taken into consideration. For instance, the U.S. still has not acknowledge the Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Turks in 1915. This is because Turkey is an ally of the U.S., especially now in regards to the U.S. interests in Iraq. Turkey strongly denies any genocide took place. So, if the U.S. were to acknowledge this event, it would be like a slap in the face to Turkey. But since Iran doesn't have anything to offer to the U.S., the U.S. can then decry the human rights violations of the Iranian government, and make a humanitarian case against it. This selective humanitarian urge on the part of governments is what sours a lot of people. When it suits governments, they will turn their head away from a humanitarian crime, and when it suits them they will deplore it and appeal to people's consciences. It is complete hypocrisy. I agree with Pey. You do have to call people out on injustices, and you can't be selective about it. The problem is that the majority of media outlets (and governments) in the U.S., and some in the UK are very selective. Political interests are taken into consideration. For instance, the U.S. still has not acknowledge the Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Turks in 1915. This is because Turkey is an ally of the U.S., especially now in regards to the U.S. interests in Iraq. Turkey strongly denies any genocide took place. So, if the U.S. were to acknowledge this event, it would be like a slap in the face to Turkey.

But since Iran doesn't have anything to offer to the U.S., the U.S. can then decry the human rights violations of the Iranian government, and make a humanitarian case against it. This selective humanitarian urge on the part of governments is what sours a lot of people. When it suits governments, they will turn their head away from a humanitarian crime, and when it suits them they will deplore it and appeal to people's consciences. It is complete hypocrisy.

]]> By: Matt http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-81122 Matt Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:52:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-81122 I agree with Pey. You do have to call people out on injustices, and you can't be selective about it. The problem is that the majority of media outlets (and governments) in the U.S., and some in the UK are very selective. Political interests are taken into consideration. For instance, the U.S. still has not acknowledge the Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Turks in 1915. This is because Turkey is an ally of the U.S., especially now in regards to the U.S. interests in Iraq. Turkey strongly denies any genocide took place. So, if the U.S. were to acknowledge this event, it would be like a slap in the face to Turkey. But since Iran doesn't have anything to offer to the U.S., the U.S. can then decry the human rights violations of the Iranian government, and make a humanitarian case against it. This selective humanitarian urge on the part of governments is what sours a lot of people. When it suits governments, they will turn their head away from a humanitarian crime, and when it suits them they will deplore it and appeal to people's consciences. It is complete hypocrisy. I agree with Pey. You do have to call people out on injustices, and you can't be selective about it. The problem is that the majority of media outlets (and governments) in the U.S., and some in the UK are very selective. Political interests are taken into consideration. For instance, the U.S. still has not acknowledge the Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Turks in 1915. This is because Turkey is an ally of the U.S., especially now in regards to the U.S. interests in Iraq. Turkey strongly denies any genocide took place. So, if the U.S. were to acknowledge this event, it would be like a slap in the face to Turkey.

But since Iran doesn't have anything to offer to the U.S., the U.S. can then decry the human rights violations of the Iranian government, and make a humanitarian case against it. This selective humanitarian urge on the part of governments is what sours a lot of people. When it suits governments, they will turn their head away from a humanitarian crime, and when it suits them they will deplore it and appeal to people's consciences. It is complete hypocrisy.

]]> By: Pey http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html/comment-page-1#comment-61928 Pey Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:51:39 +0000 http://bahairants.com/rick-steves-a-perspective-on-iran-595.html#comment-61928 It's fine to see things through another perspective, but at some point human rights are human rights- period. So if discrimination occurs inside the US, or Iran or the Bahai community- you have to call people out on it. Anyone who stands up in front of an audience ands says- oh well that's the way it is, isn't helping anything. It's fine to see things through another perspective, but at some point human rights are human rights- period. So if discrimination occurs inside the US, or Iran or the Bahai community- you have to call people out on it. Anyone who stands up in front of an audience ands says- oh well that's the way it is, isn't helping anything.

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