Comments on: The Return of the Hojatieh http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html A personal Baha'i blog. Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:26:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Grover http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59125 Grover Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:54:52 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59125 Saying its God's will is a lame excuse for not thinking. Religious zealots say its God's will all the time, no matter who (UHJ or otherwise) came up with the dumb plan in the first place. They're just too afraid to wade into the quagmire of deciding whether or not it is God's plan. God gave us a brain to use. If something doesn't make sense then more likely than not its daft. No individual or group (UHJ, NSA, LSA included) should ever claim they are divinely guided and use that to get people to follow their daft ideas. Its just like the old days in science where some quacks invoked God's name or God's will to lend credence to their ideas because they couldn't explain things in a rational way. Saying its God’s will is a lame excuse for not thinking. Religious zealots say its God’s will all the time, no matter who (UHJ or otherwise) came up with the dumb plan in the first place. They’re just too afraid to wade into the quagmire of deciding whether or not it is God’s plan.

God gave us a brain to use. If something doesn’t make sense then more likely than not its daft. No individual or group (UHJ, NSA, LSA included) should ever claim they are divinely guided and use that to get people to follow their daft ideas. Its just like the old days in science where some quacks invoked God’s name or God’s will to lend credence to their ideas because they couldn’t explain things in a rational way.

]]> By: Farhan Yazdani http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59104 Farhan Yazdani Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:45:39 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59104 Paul wrote: This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God’s will. I agree, Paul. Paul wrote:
This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God’s will.

I agree, Paul.

]]> By: Voltairine de Cleyre http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59057 Voltairine de Cleyre Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:50:30 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59057 "This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God’s will." Tee hee hee unt heil heil heil. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/bahai/2001/khancole.htm “This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God’s will.”

Tee hee hee unt heil heil heil.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/bahai/2001/khancole.htm

]]> By: Paul Stern http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59050 Paul Stern Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:03:09 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-59050 [quote comment=""][...] and the Hojjatieh extremists in power are in even more desperate need of petrodollars since that is how they have been able to [...][/quote] My concern with this is the statement that the UHJ is wrong, I believe is erroneous. This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God's will. The promise of Baha'u'llah is great for Iran. The tests the Baha'is are going through will undoubtedly prepare them for the great reward they will get as a result of their suffering.

[…] and the Hojjatieh extremists in power are in even more desperate need of petrodollars since that is how they have been able to […]

My concern with this is the statement that the UHJ is wrong, I believe is erroneous. This body is divinely guided, and if we cannot understand it is because we cannot know God’s will. The promise of Baha’u'llah is great for Iran. The tests the Baha’is are going through will undoubtedly prepare them for the great reward they will get as a result of their suffering.

]]> By: Significance of the Financial Crisis for Iran at Baha’i Rants http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-58216 Significance of the Financial Crisis for Iran at Baha’i Rants Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:28:25 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-58216 [...] and the Hojjatieh extremists in power are in even more desperate need of petrodollars since that is how they have been able to [...] […] and the Hojjatieh extremists in power are in even more desperate need of petrodollars since that is how they have been able to […]

]]> By: Administrative Body of Iranian Baha’is Arrested at Baha’i Rants http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-50450 Administrative Body of Iranian Baha’is Arrested at Baha’i Rants Wed, 14 May 2008 22:36:37 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-50450 [...] Intensifying persecutions in Iran Return of the Hojjatieh Society [...] […] Intensifying persecutions in Iran Return of the Hojjatieh Society […]

]]> By: Intensifying Persecutions in Iran at Baha’i Rants http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-50449 Intensifying Persecutions in Iran at Baha’i Rants Wed, 14 May 2008 22:36:07 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-50449 [...] message of March 22, 2006 (English) Universal House of Justice message of March 22, 2006 (Persian) The Return of the Hojatieh Statement from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human [...] […] message of March 22, 2006 (English) Universal House of Justice message of March 22, 2006 (Persian) The Return of the Hojatieh Statement from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human […]

]]> By: Ahmadinejad Asked About Baha’is In Iran http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-34692 Ahmadinejad Asked About Baha’is In Iran Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:26:33 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-34692 [...] I would bet that less than 0.00001% of those in attendance at Columbia University know what the Hojjatieh Society is, nor that their recent guest is a member of that [...] […] I would bet that less than 0.00001% of those in attendance at Columbia University know what the Hojjatieh Society is, nor that their recent guest is a member of that […]

]]> By: back to future http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-33311 back to future Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:24:54 +0000 http://bahairants.com/the-return-of-the-hojatieh-81.html#comment-33311 Hojjatieh has been infiltrated long time ago, by the same forces that rules this world and their apocalyptic visions (Communism, fascism, revolutions, war). More than 140 millions have died last century under this power ruling humanity. Now called freemasons, zionism, illuminati, hojjatieh or whatever. They have all the same masters at top and they are following their apocalyptic vision. Is amazing, even if they look so much the same, people until recently did not noticed they are interlinked and all part of the same objective. These days, many people are awakening and the masks are falling fast. They have to accelerate their plans as they do not have the same control on people, who are starting to understand their goals and more importantly their names. Despite they control most of the economy, education, media, legal structures, they are a small minority and they will be the first target in the coming years. Brothers will not destroy brothers but will definitely bring an end to this power, started more than 200 years ago. Hojjatieh has been infiltrated long time ago, by the same forces that rules this world and their apocalyptic visions (Communism, fascism, revolutions, war). More than 140 millions have died last century under this power ruling humanity. Now called freemasons, zionism, illuminati, hojjatieh or whatever. They have all the same masters at top and they are following their apocalyptic vision.
Is amazing, even if they look so much the same, people until recently did not noticed they are interlinked and all part of the same objective.
These days, many people are awakening and the masks are falling fast. They have to accelerate their plans as they do not have the same control on people, who are starting to understand their goals and more importantly their names. Despite they control most of the economy, education, media, legal structures, they are a small minority and they will be the first target in the coming years. Brothers will not destroy brothers but will definitely bring an end to this power, started more than 200 years ago.

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