Comments on: Those Naughty, Naughty “Baha’i Dissidents”

By: Desir0101

Desir0101 — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:36:00 +0000

Dear Mc Lean,

One thing is sure the Faith is withering and is dying in every land.

Bahais are just clinging to the hem of HOPE that tomorrow will be better.

Iam sure that a long time dedicated Bahai will admit this fact.

People are athirst of unity and peace but when presented to them the Bahai teaching they are reticent.Why???

Bahais are squeezed between one Muslim believe in the finality of his religion and others are not ready to accept a teaching sourced from far or near to Islam.

According to the Writings only after a global destruction will the rest of humanity will turn towards Bahai faith.

So where will be the appropriate time to the famous Entry by Troops.???

Before or after the catastrophe.???

REligion are made for those spiritually feeble people.
I believe that spirituallity are beyond borders of all these rituals and paradigm.
Spirituality is the music of the soul.
And i firmly believe that ‘s no need to be submitted to such and such dogme and doctrines.

An AWARE consciousness is the root of all good.

People are losing their precious moment of their life in shunning, hating others.

A candle will light up a thousand candles without diminish in intensity.
It will light up the environment but will remain in the shade, it’s own shadow, this is humility.

You turn towards the candle your shadow will be behind you and will not affect but turn away your shadow will be in front of you and will embarass your footsteps. you may stumble and fall.

Naturals or artificial light all is good.
Light is good from any lamp it may come from.

By: JS

JS — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 09:49:00 +0000

Jack,

Well I guess the left wing is now getting so much right wing as the so called Dissidents did grow so much that they are now majority. Any body who have quick look at the participation rates, see’s that almost no-one turning up or listen to rants coming out of administration.

By: Amado

Amado — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:13:00 +0000

Dear Jack – Thanks for your contribution – and for the article. Seeing your comment, I re-read it.
It’s well written – I’m not trying to slip by your guard by way of your ego, so I’ll say that another way: it’s better written than the long-winded efforts we periodically get out of Haifa lately…
You are, I think (with all due respect and the possibility that I may have missed everyone’s point at once) neglecting one aspect:
If a whole series of “infallible” statements are actually imperfect, and a whole string of decisions are taking the least miniscule group of the Bahai Faith the wrong direction in significant ways, maybe we “dissidents” can help fix it!
Trusting the Lord but trying to wake up our camel, rather than sitting in a darkening room praying for someone to turn on the lights, even people who are currently Bahais can be quite reasonably “just as Bahai as you are” – without agreeing with 100% of what you consider to be revealed, perfect doctrine.
You object to the irony of putting the word “naughty” in your mouth. If that is a confession of having no better rebuttal, then so is your changing the subject to argue about the other party’s attitude!
Let’s admit it – forget about the claws, but your mind is made up, too! However, if we dissidents get some changes to happen, our Bahai Faith will have fewer untenable tenets.
Amado

By: Jack McLean

Jack McLean — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:15:00 +0000

Hello All,

It is strange that my post on ‘Baha’i dissidents” should have ended up here on Baha’i Rants, an oxymoron if there ever was one. The reason I erased my blog was not because I changed my mind about its contents–I haven’t–but because I think it’s rather pointless to argue with those whose claws are sharp and whose minds are made up. My blog wasn’t a rant; it was an argument. And as someone who has been a Baha’i for 50 years, it wasn’t coming from “left-field”, but was based on a long experience with the issues I discussed. My main point was the following: a religion has to be recognizable, first and foremost, from the inside-out, not from the outside-in, the position that most ranters and critics of the Baha’i Faith, even if they call themselves Baha’is, usually take. By the way, the pervasive use of irony by your moderator, as in “naughty, naughty”, and the use of innuendo, weakens, not strengthens, the positions you take. When name-calling takes over, and is used a tool to degrade the interlocutor, you have left the domain of the rational and reasonable, and have entered the world of gesticulation and theater. Best regards, Jack McLean

By: Maureen

Maureen — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 02:53:00 +0000

I posted in the wrong place…I have no idea what the point is. I happened to arrive at this site this morning, saw that you, Realist, had posted on this thread and ended up reading all the posts. In light of the past several days that I’ve spent on another site participating in a very animated discussion involving LGBT issues, I found this thread to be somehow relevent to the other discussion on the other site. That’s my excuse ! ( I think I actually meant to thank you, Realist ).

By: Realist !

Realist ! — Tue, 31 May 2011 23:08:00 +0000

And point of the story is ?!?

By: Maureen

Maureen — Tue, 31 May 2011 13:58:00 +0000

Thank you, Sincere friend

By: Maureen

Maureen — Tue, 31 May 2011 13:58:00 +0000

Thank you, Sincere friend

By: Realist !

Realist ! — Mon, 30 May 2011 01:56:00 +0000

Sincere Friend,

Your post is standard answer that baha’ies give, as if it has written in some handbook as standard procedure.

No, people do not feel important or expect any entitlements as you put it.

They do have thier opinion and grivensses and instead of poo-poo and
wishy-washy them, thier grivensses need to be addressed other-wise
the questions get piled up !

Thanks