Comments on: Time for Ruhi to Show Us the Money: Part II http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html A Baha'i blog. Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-82798 Baquia Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:06:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-82798 Zureick, Iran, like Columbia has high PDI and UAI and low IDV. Zureick, Iran, like Columbia has high PDI and UAI and low IDV.

]]> By: Zureick1 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-82796 Zureick1 Sat, 23 Apr 2011 03:53:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-82796 The culture of Iran is remarkably similar to the culture of Columbia? That's where I stopped reading. I'm sure there is some aspect of those cultures you think is similar but, good God, really? That has to be one of the grossest over-generalizations I have have ever heard. The culture of Iran is remarkably similar to the culture of Columbia? That’s where I stopped reading. I’m sure there is some aspect of those cultures you think is similar but, good God, really? That has to be one of the grossest over-generalizations I have have ever heard.

]]> By: Universal House of Justice: Ridvan Message 2010 | Baha'i Rants http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-69211 Universal House of Justice: Ridvan Message 2010 | Baha'i Rants Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:13:26 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-69211 [...] wise decision. I haven’t seen any data that suggests that it is. For example, in the case of Columbia which is ground zero for Ruhi, after more than 40 years there has been no discernible growth in the Baha’i community. But [...] [...] wise decision. I haven’t seen any data that suggests that it is. For example, in the case of Columbia which is ground zero for Ruhi, after more than 40 years there has been no discernible growth in the Baha’i community. But [...]

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-69110 Baquia Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:06:08 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-69110 Thanks Sonja - interesting blog. Thanks Sonja – interesting blog.

]]> By: sonjavank http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-69086 sonjavank Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:40:13 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-69086 Here's a recent blog written by "Liberal Bahai" on the topic of Ruhi, he writes...<br>"Ruhi is good for rote learning and memorization. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing.... The problem with Ruhi is that a lot of people take it too seriously and view it like it is some kind of talisman or spell book that if memorized, will open the doors to endless understanding. Some communites and Bahais try to use Ruhi like an all-purpose magic formula, and that’s what causes all of the bitterness and problems. There is nothing wrong with rote learning and memorization, so long as there are other avenues of expression within a community. There has to be intellectual freedom, the right to question, ponder and acquire individual interpretations to what one has memorized or learned. This is part of the process of internalizing a concept. Memorization alone will not do that. It will just allow a person to parrot what they have heard or read...."<br><br><a href="http://liberalbahai.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/thoughts-on-ruhi/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalbahai.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/th...</a> Here's a recent blog written by “Liberal Bahai” on the topic of Ruhi, he writes…
“Ruhi is good for rote learning and memorization. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing…. The problem with Ruhi is that a lot of people take it too seriously and view it like it is some kind of talisman or spell book that if memorized, will open the doors to endless understanding. Some communites and Bahais try to use Ruhi like an all-purpose magic formula, and that’s what causes all of the bitterness and problems. There is nothing wrong with rote learning and memorization, so long as there are other avenues of expression within a community. There has to be intellectual freedom, the right to question, ponder and acquire individual interpretations to what one has memorized or learned. This is part of the process of internalizing a concept. Memorization alone will not do that. It will just allow a person to parrot what they have heard or read….”

http://liberalbahai.wordpress.com/2010/04/05/th…

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-69080 Baquia Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:21:35 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-69080 According to this <A href="http://www.eltiempo.com/vidadehoy/gente/bahai-una-religion-sin-dogmas_7527527-1" rel="nofollow">recent article</a>, the Baha'i community of Colombia is 32,000 strong. If we estimate the population to appx. 46 million (last census was in 2008 showing 44.5 million) then this is about 0.07% of the population.<br><br>So there is one small evidence of the efficacy - or rather, lack thereof - of Ruhi.<br><br>Thanks to Sen for finding the article and sharing it on Talisman!</A> According to this recent article, the Baha'i community of Colombia is 32,000 strong. If we estimate the population to appx. 46 million (last census was in 2008 showing 44.5 million) then this is about 0.07% of the population.

So there is one small evidence of the efficacy – or rather, lack thereof – of Ruhi.

Thanks to Sen for finding the article and sharing it on Talisman!

]]> By: James http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-68892 James Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:10:48 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-68892 There is a big misconception that "mass conversions" and "entry by troops" are the same thing. <br><br>When the teachings of Baha'u'llah result in the nurturing of the spirits of the community, this improves life. This is Ruhi. <br><br>I've seen in my own community in New Jersey, as well as in the neighboring New York City community, in the last two years, the positive affects of Ruhi bringing people together. Some people become lovers of Baha'u'llah, some people don't. But in general, the teachings of Baha'u'llah do touch people and help improve their spiritual lives. And this is the goal.<br><br>The Faith is about unification. It's about love. It's not about conversion.<br><br>O SON OF MAN!<br>Thou dost wish for gold and I desire thy freedom from it. Thou thinkest thyself rich in its possession, and I recognize thy wealth in thy sanctity therefrom. By My life! This is My knowledge, and that is thy fancy; how can My way accord with thine? There is a big misconception that “mass conversions” and “entry by troops” are the same thing.

When the teachings of Baha'u'llah result in the nurturing of the spirits of the community, this improves life. This is Ruhi.

I've seen in my own community in New Jersey, as well as in the neighboring New York City community, in the last two years, the positive affects of Ruhi bringing people together. Some people become lovers of Baha'u'llah, some people don't. But in general, the teachings of Baha'u'llah do touch people and help improve their spiritual lives. And this is the goal.

The Faith is about unification. It's about love. It's not about conversion.

O SON OF MAN!
Thou dost wish for gold and I desire thy freedom from it. Thou thinkest thyself rich in its possession, and I recognize thy wealth in thy sanctity therefrom. By My life! This is My knowledge, and that is thy fancy; how can My way accord with thine?

]]> By: winterbv http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-68602 winterbv Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:52:17 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-68602 When do we start handing out those drugs (and what are those drugs so we can start the movement now)? Is Walmart selling those implants? It seems like the best idea I've heard in years. When do we start handing out those drugs (and what are those drugs so we can start the movement now)? Is Walmart selling those implants? It seems like the best idea I've heard in years.

]]> By: farhan http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html/comment-page-1#comment-66830 farhan Sun, 31 May 2009 02:38:08 +0000 http://bahairants.com/time-for-ruhi-to-show-us-the-money-part-ii-339.html#comment-66830 Amado wrote: you can’t teach what you know – only what you are Yes Amado, I agree with you; I have seen everything you describe and even worse. These are mistakes from people who would have been completely inactive without the institute. We sometimes have fun laughing at postings with examples mistakes students and even teachers make in their school work; this doesn't mean we have to close down schools, but proves how badly we need them. Amado wrote: you can’t teach what you know – only what you are

Yes Amado, I agree with you; I have seen everything you describe and even worse. These are mistakes from people who would have been completely inactive without the institute. We sometimes have fun laughing at postings with examples mistakes students and even teachers make in their school work; this doesn't mean we have to close down schools, but proves how badly we need them.

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