Comments on: Transparent is as Transparent Does http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html A personal Baha'i blog. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:49:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Mavaddat http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43519 Mavaddat Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:26:47 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43519 I guess I'm referring specifically to my comments on this and your <a href="http://bahairants.com/you-cant-pick-choose-or-can-you-194.html" rel="nofollow">"Pick and Choose"</a> blogs. I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on those two. Thanks! Mavaddat I guess I’m referring specifically to my comments on this and your “Pick and Choose” blogs.

I was wondering if I could get your thoughts on those two.

Thanks!
Mavaddat

]]> By: Baquia http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43514 Baquia Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:58:12 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43514 Hi Mavaddat, the comments are flying fast and thick, at times I can't tell if they are directed at me or part of a general discussion or directed at another commenter. Hi Mavaddat,
the comments are flying fast and thick, at times I can’t tell if they are directed at me or part of a general discussion or directed at another commenter.

]]> By: Mavaddat http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43468 Mavaddat Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:21:33 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43468 Hi Baquia, I was just wondering why I don't get any replies from you. Do my posts not warrant response, in your opinion? I am not trying to be challenging; I sincerely want to know. Regards, Mavaddat Hi Baquia,

I was just wondering why I don’t get any replies from you. Do my posts not warrant response, in your opinion? I am not trying to be challenging; I sincerely want to know.

Regards,
Mavaddat

]]> By: David http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43455 David Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:38:06 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43455 "...The administrative order which lies embedded in the Teachings of Baha'u'llah, and which the American believers have championed and are now establishing, should, under no circumstances, be identified with the principles underlying present-day democracies. Nor is it identical with any purely aristocratic or autocratic form of government. The objectionable features inherent in each of these political systems are entirely avoided. It blends, as no system of human polity has as yet achieved, those salutary truths and beneficial elements which constitute the valuable contributions which each of these forms of government have made to society in the past...." (Postscript written by the Guardian to a letter written on his behalf to the National Spiritual Assembly of the United States and Canada, November 18, 1933: The National Spiritual Assembly, p.26) “…The administrative order which lies embedded in the Teachings of Baha’u'llah, and which the American believers have championed and are now establishing, should, under no circumstances, be identified with the principles underlying present-day democracies. Nor is it identical with any purely aristocratic or autocratic form of government. The objectionable features inherent in each of these political systems are entirely avoided. It blends, as no system of human polity has as yet achieved, those salutary truths and beneficial elements which constitute the valuable contributions which each of these forms of government have made to society in the past….”

(Postscript written by the Guardian to a letter written on his behalf to the National Spiritual Assembly of the United States and Canada, November 18, 1933: The National Spiritual Assembly, p.26)

]]> By: concourse_on_low http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43449 concourse_on_low Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:03:22 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43449 Lieylak, Nice temper tantrum. To your credit, you lasted longer than most Bahais before devolving into a shrill self-righteous implosion. Lieylak,

Nice temper tantrum. To your credit, you lasted longer than most Bahais before devolving into a shrill self-righteous implosion.

]]> By: Amanda http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43439 Amanda Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:48:21 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43439 Lieylak, On 2008-02-16 20:10:57, Baquia wrote, "Lieylak, I am not basing what I wrote on assumption. I have contacted my NSA and even the UHJ. Each time I was given the runaround in beautiful flowery language." That is what I was referring to as "missing it." Not meant as an "accusation." You are not being attacked by me. "Marginally" yours, Amanda Lieylak,

On 2008-02-16 20:10:57, Baquia wrote,
“Lieylak, I am not basing what I wrote on assumption. I have contacted my NSA and even the UHJ. Each time I was given the runaround in beautiful flowery language.” That is what I was referring to as “missing it.” Not meant as an “accusation.”

You are not being attacked by me.

“Marginally” yours,
Amanda

]]> By: Mavaddat http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43432 Mavaddat Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:02:24 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43432 First...<blockquote> Lieylak 2008-02-17 18:56:09 BUt, with most of Baquila readers your comment is rude, incorrect, and accusatory towards Baquila and myself. This type of commentary both in real life and in cyberspace totally cuts of the possibility of true fruitful conversation …because that requires the spirit of benefit of the doubt to the person that you are speaking to and love for them.</blockquote>And then...<blockquote>Comment by Lieylak 2008-02-18 01:49:38 Wow …amanda I am so glad I don’t know you! No one here asked to be coddled just to not be attacked needlessly and stupidly! Read what I wrote and please try to use your brain!</blockquote>Lieylak, I am glad you are here as a true representative of the Bahá'í community. First…

Lieylak
2008-02-17 18:56:09

BUt, with most of Baquila readers your comment is rude, incorrect, and accusatory towards Baquila and myself. This type of commentary both in real life and in cyberspace totally cuts of the possibility of true fruitful conversation …because that requires the spirit of benefit of the doubt to the person that you are speaking to and love for them.

And then…

Comment by Lieylak
2008-02-18 01:49:38

Wow …amanda I am so glad I don’t know you!
No one here asked to be coddled just to not be attacked needlessly and stupidly! Read what I wrote and please try to use your brain!

Lieylak, I am glad you are here as a true representative of the Bahá’í community.

]]> By: Lieylak http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43424 Lieylak Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:14 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43424 Abbadula Culala, I NEVER SAID PASSIVITY IS GOD ACTING! DON'T PUT Words in mouth!!! The whole point of my comment that I guess you "somehow" missed is that you have to keep actively opposing things that are not right...but not the institution's themselves. This is not about passivity but actively. How did you miss the part..."we have to keep trying" this encourages action and refers to the actions I have been taking. I am going to stop participating because people commenting on this site on this site 1) don't know how to read 2) can't read because they have such a huge chip on their shoulders and are against the Baha'i Faith 3) twist things around to attack the Baha'i Faith (like the fact that Bacquila didn't mention till I had almost made every comment on this that I have that he has already called and Amanda accused me of "missing it"! I must thank you because everytime I think that the Baha'i community is not what is should be yet and I get a little right or left of center...I meet people like you. Fringe people...there are not many but you are a loud, assuming you know everything about everyones thoughts and intentions....thank the Lord you are a minority. And if you are on the fringe with the way you act I understand why...and somehow despite the fact that I do want unity I am glad YOU are not in control of my Bahai community because you have put yourself on the fringe. You remind me how great the Baha'i community is....you have just moved motion that was going towards the fringe back center. Thank you for reminding me, through your uninformed words, what is right and what is wrong ! Abbadula Culala,
I NEVER SAID PASSIVITY IS GOD ACTING! DON’T PUT Words in mouth!!! The whole point of my comment that I guess you “somehow” missed is that you have to keep actively opposing things that are not right…but not the institution’s themselves. This is not about passivity but actively. How did you miss the part…”we have to keep trying” this encourages action and refers to the actions I have been taking.

I am going to stop participating because people commenting on this site on this site 1) don’t know how to read 2) can’t read because they have such a huge chip on their shoulders and are against the Baha’i Faith 3) twist things around to attack the Baha’i Faith (like the fact that Bacquila didn’t mention till I had almost made every comment on this that I have that he has already called and Amanda accused me of “missing it”!

I must thank you because everytime I think that the Baha’i community is not what is should be yet and I get a little right or left of center…I meet people like you.

Fringe people…there are not many but you are a loud, assuming you know everything about everyones thoughts and intentions….thank the Lord you are a minority. And if you are on the fringe with the way you act I understand why…and somehow despite the fact that I do want unity I am glad YOU are not in control of my Bahai community because you have put yourself on the fringe.

You remind me how great the Baha’i community is….you have just moved motion that was going towards the fringe back center. Thank you for reminding me, through your uninformed words, what is right and what is wrong !

]]> By: Brendan Cook http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43423 Brendan Cook Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:12:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/transparent-is-as-transparent-does-449.html#comment-43423 "It is idiot’s like you that believe that passivity is god acting." Stupid is as stupid does, and calling someone an idiot is the stupidest thing I've seen done on this thread. I hope Lieylak ignores this sort of ignorance and continues to post constructively. “It is idiot’s like you that believe that passivity is god acting.”

Stupid is as stupid does, and calling someone an idiot is the stupidest thing I’ve seen done on this thread. I hope Lieylak ignores this sort of ignorance and continues to post constructively.

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