Comments on: Where is the Garden of Ridvan? http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html A Baha'i blog. Tue, 22 May 2012 19:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Amirbadiei http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-82854 Amirbadiei Fri, 29 Apr 2011 03:42:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-82854 I am sorry, I just saw your comment about the island part. Please disregard my question which I posted a couple of minutes ago. amir I am sorry, I just saw your comment about the island part. Please disregard my question which I posted a couple of minutes ago. amir

]]> By: Amirbadiei http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-82853 Amirbadiei Fri, 29 Apr 2011 03:39:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-82853 Could you please tell me how you know that the Ridvan Garden was located on an Island. Some other Baha'is have mentioned to me the same thing. But where can I find a reference to to this information? Thanks, amir Could you please tell me how you know that the Ridvan Garden was located on an Island. Some other Baha’is have mentioned to me the same thing. But where can I find a reference to to this information? Thanks, amir

]]> By: Anonymous http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-70617 Anonymous Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:52:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-70617 There was at least one letter from the administration which directly dealt with this. It instructed Baha'is to not participate in anti-war demonstrations or to make similar gestures. There was at least one letter from the administration which directly dealt with this. It instructed Baha’is to not participate in anti-war demonstrations or to make similar gestures.

]]> By: fubar http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-69710 fubar Mon, 09 Aug 2010 07:54:12 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-69710 several bahai activists were ex-communicated by haifan bahai authorities for "political involvement" over the last several decades.<br><br>recently, I heard from a bahai that was ex-communicated for being in a labor union protest of corporatist global economics.<br><br>there are several theories about how the bahai doctrine of "political non-involvement" originated, and some of those theories point out inconsistencies in the statements/logic of haifan bahai authorities.<br><br>for instance, abdul-bahai placed some early bahais into the early parliamentary political reforms systems in iran.<br><br>shoghi effendi, or a secretary writing letters for him, encouraged bahai students to protest against racial segregation in campus housing (in the 1940s or 50s?).<br><br>many early bahai leaders in the USA were elitists/racists who discrimiated against working class people and racial minorities. several bahai activists were ex-communicated by haifan bahai authorities for “political involvement” over the last several decades.

recently, I heard from a bahai that was ex-communicated for being in a labor union protest of corporatist global economics.

there are several theories about how the bahai doctrine of “political non-involvement” originated, and some of those theories point out inconsistencies in the statements/logic of haifan bahai authorities.

for instance, abdul-bahai placed some early bahais into the early parliamentary political reforms systems in iran.

shoghi effendi, or a secretary writing letters for him, encouraged bahai students to protest against racial segregation in campus housing (in the 1940s or 50s?).

many early bahai leaders in the USA were elitists/racists who discrimiated against working class people and racial minorities.

]]> By: Robertsn2009 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-69699 Robertsn2009 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:53:26 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-69699 Im a refugee living inKiev. Im just curious -- where there any anti_Iraqi war activities 10 years ago? Did any Bahais take part in action (as individuals) against this war?<br>From myunderstanding in the Vietnam war in the west there were massive protests in the war, but this time there were almost non. Im a refugee living inKiev. Im just curious — where there any anti_Iraqi war activities 10 years ago? Did any Bahais take part in action (as individuals) against this war?
From myunderstanding in the Vietnam war in the west there were massive protests in the war, but this time there were almost non.

]]> By: fredstarr http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-68597 fredstarr Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:26:32 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-68597 I think the site of the Garden is to the left near the boat marina. A 1944 map I saw shows the old boat ferry at the sight of the marina; therefore B landed there before going into the Garden. Also, the buildings around there were the first phase of Medical City, which took over from the old Hospital (Najib Pasha's mansion). Maybe its best we don't know the exact site until conditions there change. I think the site of the Garden is to the left near the boat marina. A 1944 map I saw shows the old boat ferry at the sight of the marina; therefore B landed there before going into the Garden. Also, the buildings around there were the first phase of Medical City, which took over from the old Hospital (Najib Pasha's mansion). Maybe its best we don't know the exact site until conditions there change.

]]> By: fredstarr http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-68297 fredstarr Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:26:32 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-68297 I think the site of the Garden is to the left near the boat marina. A 1944 map I saw shows the old boat ferry at the sight of the marina; therefore B landed there before going into the Garden. Also, the buildings around there were the first phase of Medical City, which took over from the old Hospital (Najib Pasha's mansion). Maybe its best we don't know the exact site until conditions there change. I think the site of the Garden is to the left near the boat marina. A 1944 map I saw shows the old boat ferry at the sight of the marina; therefore B landed there before going into the Garden. Also, the buildings around there were the first phase of Medical City, which took over from the old Hospital (Najib Pasha's mansion). Maybe its best we don't know the exact site until conditions there change.

]]> By: Carmen http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-48974 Carmen Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:10:21 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-48974 Craig wrote: Carmen, Happy Ridvan to you! Can you give me a reference in the Baha'i Scripyure where it says Shoghi Effendi is the "Sign of God" on Earth?" Happy Ridvan, my brother :) Abdu'l_Baha referred to him as the "Sign of God" in His Will and Testament. Here is some general information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoghi_Effendi) though you would need to read the Will and Testament(exact quote from the W&T: "O my loving friends! After the passing away of this wronged one, it is incumbent upon the Aghsán (Branches), the Afnán (Twigs) of the Sacred Lote-Tree, the Hands (pillars) of the Cause of God and the loved ones of the Abhá Beauty to turn unto Shoghi Effendi—the youthful branch branched from the two hallowed and sacred Lote-Trees and the fruit grown from the union of the two offshoots of the Tree of Holiness,- as he is the sign of God, the chosen branch, the Guardian of the Cause of God..." "...from him will appear wondrous things that thou wilt hear of in the future. Thou shalt behold him endowed with the most perfect appearance, supreme capacity, absolute perfection, consummate power and unsurpassed might... ages and centuries will bear traces of him." Abdul-Baha's comment on Isaiah 11:6 where it says "a little child shall lead them". Carmen Craig wrote: Carmen, Happy Ridvan to you! Can you give me a reference in the Baha’i Scripyure where it says Shoghi Effendi is the “Sign of God” on Earth?”

Happy Ridvan, my brother :) Abdu’l_Baha referred to him as the “Sign of God” in His Will and Testament. Here is some general information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoghi_Effendi) though you would need to read the Will and Testament(exact quote from the W&T: “O my loving friends! After the passing away of this wronged one, it is incumbent upon the Aghsán (Branches), the Afnán (Twigs) of the Sacred Lote-Tree, the Hands (pillars) of the Cause of God and the loved ones of the Abhá Beauty to turn unto Shoghi Effendi—the youthful branch branched from the two hallowed and sacred Lote-Trees and the fruit grown from the union of the two offshoots of the Tree of Holiness,- as he is the sign of God, the chosen branch, the Guardian of the Cause of God…”

“…from him will appear wondrous things that thou wilt hear of in the future. Thou shalt behold him endowed with the most perfect appearance, supreme capacity, absolute perfection, consummate power and unsurpassed might… ages and centuries will bear traces of him.” Abdul-Baha’s comment on Isaiah 11:6 where it says “a little child shall lead them”.

Carmen

]]> By: Carmen http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html/comment-page-1#comment-78435 Carmen Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://bahairants.com/where-is-the-garden-of-ridvan-481.html#comment-78435 Craig wrote: Carmen, Happy Ridvan to you! Can you give me a reference in the Baha'i Scripyure where it says Shoghi Effendi is the "Sign of God" on Earth?" Happy Ridvan, my brother :) Abdu'l_Baha referred to him as the "Sign of God" in His Will and Testament. Here is some general information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoghi_Effendi) though you would need to read the Will and Testament(exact quote from the W&T: "O my loving friends! After the passing away of this wronged one, it is incumbent upon the Aghsán (Branches), the Afnán (Twigs) of the Sacred Lote-Tree, the Hands (pillars) of the Cause of God and the loved ones of the Abhá Beauty to turn unto Shoghi Effendi—the youthful branch branched from the two hallowed and sacred Lote-Trees and the fruit grown from the union of the two offshoots of the Tree of Holiness,- as he is the sign of God, the chosen branch, the Guardian of the Cause of God..." "...from him will appear wondrous things that thou wilt hear of in the future. Thou shalt behold him endowed with the most perfect appearance, supreme capacity, absolute perfection, consummate power and unsurpassed might... ages and centuries will bear traces of him." Abdul-Baha's comment on Isaiah 11:6 where it says "a little child shall lead them". Carmen Craig wrote: Carmen, Happy Ridvan to you! Can you give me a reference in the Baha’i Scripyure where it says Shoghi Effendi is the “Sign of God” on Earth?”

Happy Ridvan, my brother :) Abdu’l_Baha referred to him as the “Sign of God” in His Will and Testament. Here is some general information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoghi_Effendi) though you would need to read the Will and Testament(exact quote from the W&T: “O my loving friends! After the passing away of this wronged one, it is incumbent upon the Aghsán (Branches), the Afnán (Twigs) of the Sacred Lote-Tree, the Hands (pillars) of the Cause of God and the loved ones of the Abhá Beauty to turn unto Shoghi Effendi—the youthful branch branched from the two hallowed and sacred Lote-Trees and the fruit grown from the union of the two offshoots of the Tree of Holiness,- as he is the sign of God, the chosen branch, the Guardian of the Cause of God…”

“…from him will appear wondrous things that thou wilt hear of in the future. Thou shalt behold him endowed with the most perfect appearance, supreme capacity, absolute perfection, consummate power and unsurpassed might… ages and centuries will bear traces of him.” Abdul-Baha’s comment on Isaiah 11:6 where it says “a little child shall lead them”.

Carmen

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