Yes Virginia, Gay Baha’is Do Exist

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gay-bahais.pngMichael, one of the bright and courages youth behind Year of Faith blog, posted his ‘debriefing’ on Baha’i Journal. He especially had a ‘burning question’… oh boy… here it comes:

What is your stance on homosexuality? I am aware of what the Baha’i position is, but I am curious if you agree or disagree. Why or why not?

I myself am unable to reconcile the Baha’i prohibition against homosexual behavior with the stance of the oneness of humanity. It seems contradictory to put so much emphasis on tolerance, mutual understanding, and equality, and yet maintain such a conservative view on sexuality and marriage. I also have trouble seeing how the Baha’i community could augment this, or any one of it’s ideas, without a new Prophet to set us straight on God’s Will.

As you can imagine that lead to a very interesting discussion. I followed along from a distance since I’ve long given up trying to actually get anything past the Taliban-esque moderators on Baha’i Journal. I was intrigued to find, among the Baha’i youth in that discussion forum, one or two that actually, Gasp! had an open mind.

In any case, take a look and see their discussion. If I could have contributed, I would have said one simple thing:

I challenge anyone, Baha’i or not, to find one sentence revealed by Baha’u'llah explicitly devoted to the subject of homosexuality.

And if you would like to peek into places where gay Baha’is and their friends gather and talk online, here are three forums:

Gay Baha’i Forum

(Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender) GLBT Baha’is

Gay Baha’i Story Project

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  • Werdna the Wizard

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    “Turning to equal protection, the court found that limiting “marriage” to opposite-sex couples discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation. In an important ruling of first impression, the court found that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is subject to the high hurdle of “strict judicial scrutiny” under the California constitution, under which the state must establish that the discrimination is necessary to achieve a compelling governmental interest. The court found that this standard was not met. Of significance, it rejected the state’s argument that preserving the traditional definition of marriage by excluding same-sex couples is a compelling state interest, particularly in light of the stigma and harm to same-sex couples and their families from this discrimination.

    “In addition, APA’ s brief clearly informed other important aspects of the majority’s decision such as the court’s discussion of the nature of same-sex relationships, the role of child-rearing, and the stigma resulting from denying the label “marriage” to same-sex unions all of which paralleled the points made in the APA’s brief about current scientific research on these issues.”

    Baha’i response:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bErPOo6jGMg

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  • Michael Zargarov

    Greetings.
    For almost 18 years, I was a very successful Pioneer and Travel Teacher. I was also a closeted gay man.
    When I came out…to the baha’is AND the world…I was pushed out of the Faith and called a Covenant Breaker.

    It is THEY who have broken the eternal covenant…by judging…and shunning.

  • Michael Zargarov

    Greetings.
    For almost 18 years, I was a very successful Pioneer and Travel Teacher. I was also a closeted gay man.
    When I came out…to the baha’is AND the world…I was pushed out of the Faith and called a Covenant Breaker.

    It is THEY who have broken the eternal covenant…by judging…and shunning.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/AXBIWYKSW2DIDY5MUPTRVGM2NY HARJITPAL

    I am a gay bahai, or should I say ex gay as I am celebate. I have been for 3 and a half years. I do find it difficult and some days are better than others, but one look at the gay community makes me realise what I have gained. I have been so blessed beyond words, because even words will fail to show how my life has changed in amasing leaps and bounds. It is easy for man to stand infront of others and debate about why they should not be who they are, try having that debate with God. If you ask yourself that question, why am I a Bahai' and what am I going to get from being a Bahai' you will have to realise one of the main reasons which is covered in Book 2 of Arising to Serve; The eternal Covanant of God. If that is not enough for you to put down your words about why you can be gay and why you should not try to attain the chalise of purity then what is the point of being a Bahai'. If you dont want to attain a level of purity withing your self as a person then what is the point of praying like a hypocrite and taking on a title as a Bahai gay man or woman. Prayers are meant to teach you of the words and wisdom of God and the faith, its up to you to decide what effect these words and wisdom have on your spirit and soul not anyone else. Its is always easy for us to say that God made us the way we are, but the words of the faith should have an effect that can change that and if you have been reciting these prayers, abiding to the obligatory prayer and doing the fast then you will feel it with in yourself and it will automatically disarm you of your words as they will become meaningless.

  • BahaiReply

    wow i know what you mean man i'm an alcoholic. and some days are real tuff. but obedience and prayer gives me strength I never knew I had the capacity for. submission to His law is True freedom. alcoholism is slavery

  • timwatts

    Ok thanks…

  • timwatts

    I held my b/f's hand for 2 weeks in intensive care while his liver gave out. He was 29! I am too upset by your hideous post somewhere and when I find it i am going to answer you.

  • BahaiReply

    i am very sad to hear u have lost a loved one so yong. explain how my post it is hideous. unlike a lot of other religions Baha'is are asked to be extremely tolerant to homosexuals. so i have been very polite toward you even when that politeness was not reflected back. just click on my name on the resent posts section and it will take you to a list of all my posts. and you can post a reply from there.

  • larry lachoff

    Trouble in paradise

  • Richard Rowland

    After nearly 40 years I left the Faith because I could not be a Baha’i and live freely as God created me.  I did the right thing!   

  • Richard Rowland

    Very good response!!!!

  • Shanishah38

    hi man i want to embrace bahaiat as i m reading it for more than a year,i m from pakistan and i m a homosexual person though i m well educated and teaching is my profession but i cant exprress my self while living in this country can any one tell me how i can change my life to get the pleasures of my desires

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