You Mean Baha’i, Right?

If you live in a large enough city, you eventually will run into this sort of placard (unfortunately attached to a loony person). Right there, between “DRUNKARD’S” and “CATHOLIC’S”… I think the misspelled word is meant to be Baha’i. Misspelling is of course, the least of this person’s problems.

I had no idea I ♥ the devil. Including Baha’i, little ol’ me fits into six of the categories. Can you beat that? Do you ♥ the devil more?

jeebuz lovin nutjob

Boy, that's a lot of hate. About the only thing this person seems to love is Jesus... and' apostrophes'.

Bonus points if you can tell us what P.K. stands for in Jeebus-speak.

Oh and before I forget… McCain ’08!!

;)

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  • http://bahaisonline.net/tcb Steve Marshall

    [quote comment="59346"]RELIGIOUS belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high murder rates, abortion, sexual promiscuity and suicide, according to research published today:[/quote]

    “Today” was September 27, 2005, and the research being reported on was much less definitive than Ruth Gledhill’s breathless article might indicate.

    “An important thing to keep in mind whenever you read about social science research is to look closely at the way the variables are conceptualized by the researcher(s). Whether you find that research on religion supports or challenges your current assumptions, a central question is ‘What ‘religion’ are we talking about?’”
    What religion are we talking about?

    Here’s the decidedly non-sexy conclusion to the actual article:

    The United States’ deep social problems are all the more disturbing because the nation enjoys exceptional per capita wealth among the major western nations (Barro and McCleary; Kasman; PEW; UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). Spending on health care is much higher as a portion of the GDP and per capita, by a factor of a third to two or more, than in any other developed democracy (UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). The U.S. is therefore the least efficient western nation in terms of converting wealth into cultural and physical health. Understanding the reasons for this failure is urgent, and doing so requires considering the degree to which cause versus effect is responsible for the observed correlations between social conditions and religiosity versus secularism. It is therefore hoped that this initial look at a subject of pressing importance will inspire more extensive research on the subject. Pressing questions include the reasons, whether theistic or non-theistic, that the exceptionally wealthy U.S. is so inefficient that it is experiencing a much higher degree of societal distress than are less religious, less wealthy prosperous democracies. Conversely, how do the latter achieve superior societal health while having little in the way of the religious values or institutions? There is evidence that within the U.S. strong disparities in religious belief versus acceptance of evolution are correlated with similarly varying rates of societal dysfunction, the strongly theistic, anti-evolution south and mid-west having markedly worse homicide, mortality, STD, youth pregnancy, marital and related problems than the northeast where societal conditions, secularization, and acceptance of evolution approach European norms (Aral and Holmes; Beeghley, Doyle, 2002). It is the responsibility of the research community to address controversial issues and provide the information that the citizens of democracies need to chart their future courses.
    Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies

    In other words, more research is needed. As you’d expect.

    There’s some interesting stuff coming out of the World Values Survey. Basically, there are a range of correlations between factors. One interesting one, heard on the radio yesterday morning is that “…religious people tend to be happier than non-religious people. This is true in most of the world, so, … I would say having a clear belief system, having faith is conducive to happiness too. And that’s something that seems to favour economic development.”

    “I think secularization is something that tends to go along with economic development, and rich countries clearly are happier – they tend be higher on happiness – so there’s this complicated, paradoxical relationship where economic development tends to go with secularisation, and thus secular people – secular countries – like Denmark or New Zealand are relatively high on happiness. But, within any given country, religious people tend to be happier. And when you control for income levels, the difference is even bigger.”

    ka kite
    Steve

  • http://bahaisonline.net/tcb Steve Marshall

    [quote comment="59346"]RELIGIOUS belief can cause damage to a society, contributing towards high murder rates, abortion, sexual promiscuity and suicide, according to research published today:[/quote]

    “Today” was September 27, 2005, and the research being reported on was much less definitive than Ruth Gledhill’s breathless article might indicate.

    “An important thing to keep in mind whenever you read about social science research is to look closely at the way the variables are conceptualized by the researcher(s). Whether you find that research on religion supports or challenges your current assumptions, a central question is ‘What ‘religion’ are we talking about?’”
    What religion are we talking about?

    Here’s the decidedly non-sexy conclusion to the actual article:

    The United States’ deep social problems are all the more disturbing because the nation enjoys exceptional per capita wealth among the major western nations (Barro and McCleary; Kasman; PEW; UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). Spending on health care is much higher as a portion of the GDP and per capita, by a factor of a third to two or more, than in any other developed democracy (UN Development Programme, 2000, 2004). The U.S. is therefore the least efficient western nation in terms of converting wealth into cultural and physical health. Understanding the reasons for this failure is urgent, and doing so requires considering the degree to which cause versus effect is responsible for the observed correlations between social conditions and religiosity versus secularism. It is therefore hoped that this initial look at a subject of pressing importance will inspire more extensive research on the subject. Pressing questions include the reasons, whether theistic or non-theistic, that the exceptionally wealthy U.S. is so inefficient that it is experiencing a much higher degree of societal distress than are less religious, less wealthy prosperous democracies. Conversely, how do the latter achieve superior societal health while having little in the way of the religious values or institutions? There is evidence that within the U.S. strong disparities in religious belief versus acceptance of evolution are correlated with similarly varying rates of societal dysfunction, the strongly theistic, anti-evolution south and mid-west having markedly worse homicide, mortality, STD, youth pregnancy, marital and related problems than the northeast where societal conditions, secularization, and acceptance of evolution approach European norms (Aral and Holmes; Beeghley, Doyle, 2002). It is the responsibility of the research community to address controversial issues and provide the information that the citizens of democracies need to chart their future courses.
    Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies

    In other words, more research is needed. As you’d expect.

    There’s some interesting stuff coming out of the World Values Survey. Basically, there are a range of correlations between factors. One interesting one, heard on the radio yesterday morning is that “…religious people tend to be happier than non-religious people. This is true in most of the world, so, … I would say having a clear belief system, having faith is conducive to happiness too. And that’s something that seems to favour economic development.”

    “I think secularization is something that tends to go along with economic development, and rich countries clearly are happier – they tend be higher on happiness – so there’s this complicated, paradoxical relationship where economic development tends to go with secularisation, and thus secular people – secular countries – like Denmark or New Zealand are relatively high on happiness. But, within any given country, religious people tend to be happier. And when you control for income levels, the difference is even bigger.”

    ka kite
    Steve

  • Andrew

    “But, within any given country, religious people tend to be happier. And when you control for income levels, the difference is even bigger.”

    This sounds so much more definitive! Of course, whether or not it’s true is another matter altogether: probably more research is needed. After all, the followers of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon could hardly be characterized as “unhappy,” could they?

    Interestingly, as Dr. Michael Nielsen has reported, “A study by Argyle and Hills (2000) found a modest negative correlation between mysticism and happiness, meaning that people who had mystical experiences also tended to report lower levels of happiness.” And in the Christian tradition, there is much talk of joy and sorrow being intertwined: you can’t have one without the other. Orthodox monastics cultivate a state known as charmolypi, joy-sorrow: tears for the woes of the world, and gratitude for God’s mercy.

    But that’s a bit difficult to sell as a door-knocker these days. ;-)

  • Andrew

    “But, within any given country, religious people tend to be happier. And when you control for income levels, the difference is even bigger.”

    This sounds so much more definitive! Of course, whether or not it’s true is another matter altogether: probably more research is needed. After all, the followers of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon could hardly be characterized as “unhappy,” could they?

    Interestingly, as Dr. Michael Nielsen has reported, “A study by Argyle and Hills (2000) found a modest negative correlation between mysticism and happiness, meaning that people who had mystical experiences also tended to report lower levels of happiness.” And in the Christian tradition, there is much talk of joy and sorrow being intertwined: you can’t have one without the other. Orthodox monastics cultivate a state known as charmolypi, joy-sorrow: tears for the woes of the world, and gratitude for God’s mercy.

    But that’s a bit difficult to sell as a door-knocker these days. ;-)